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Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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post #19

Very nice. How long before something this good is available as open source? A tough test would be to hook this up to a police/fire scanner, or air traffic control radio.

They did post the code on github (https://github.com/Microsoft/CNTK) with the Microsoft open source license.

Presumably you could feed it speech from a running instance of gnu-radio.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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post #17

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This is also true for pwople. How do you know humans are thinking and not following lots of social rules they learn thanks to special neural hardware for learning social interaction? Think about the intelligence conveyed in ritualized greetings.

You are recapitulating Descartes. Consciousness appears to be immeasurable. You can only know that you are conscious. It is polite to give others the benefit of doubt.

The commenter said nothing about consciousness. He simply said that just being able to hold a conversation is not a particularly useful measure of intelligence. The broader form of that is that we don't even know if humans in general are intelligent.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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I'm curious, what is your definition of AI?

A machine process qualifies as AI if it believes in a god. EDIT: I see the nuances of epistemological problems are lost to HN and knee-jerk culture war atheism still rules supreme.

What a useless definition. I could just as easily say that no being (artificial or not) can be considered intelligent so long as it believes in flying spaghetti monsters.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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post #19

Very nice. How long before something this good is available as open source? A tough test would be to hook this up to a police/fire scanner, or air traffic control radio.

Or even mock emergency calls where the callers aren't in a rational state of mind.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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The term "human parity" refers to a comparison of the error rate, which is a single scalar summarizing performance in terms of mistakes made. It says nothing about the kind of mistakes, and I can easily imagine that machines qualitatively do not make at all the same kind of mistakes as humans. I'd be curious to know if the kind of mistakes machines make might strike human listeners as quite stupid, but maybe not.. many algorithms are getting better at taking into context and prior knowledge into account.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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Nice to read this, being someone who uses lots of Microsoft products, but I have mixed feelings: after all these years Cortana still understands 0.0% of my native language (Dutch). Very disappointing, especially seeing that Google has no problems understanding Dutch.

What do you think the chances are that Philips is working on this?

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Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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The touring test shows AI has little to do with image or speech recognition. An AI that operates in a purely virtual environment would still be revolutionary.

The Turing test doesn't test for intelligence , simply human-like communication. Things like lying, typing errors, or reaction to insult aren't indicators of an artificial intelligence, but are requirements for passing the Turing test. One of the biggest criticisms of the Turing test is, because it's a behavioral or functional test, there is no way to ensure that the computer is actually thinking intelligently at all…

I can think of no better test of whether some specific being is intelligent than fooling another human into thinking they are.

Can you think of a better one?

> because it's a behavioral or functional test

What else would you test for in an AI other than its output and behavior? Conversely: how would you test a human for intelligence other than through its output and behavior?

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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I don't get why that's frustrating, without image and speech recognition AI isn't possible. -- How intelligent could people be without sensory perception? Hellen Keller is the exception, take away the ability for humans to process sound, and images as a species and we wouldn't be nearly as advanced as we are today even if we still had the same brain structure and mental capacity. Ray Kurzweil understood this and is w…

> I don't get why that's frustrating, without image and speech recognition AI isn't possible Wait, what? The most commonly known (and perhaps oldest) AI test in no way requires either image nor speech recognition. Millions of blind and deaf human beings would like to disagree with your claim that they are not intelligent or sentient beings. Seriously, what is the basis of this claim?

I'm not saying one can't be smart/intelligent without being able to see/hear, I'm saying if you take away all senses from ALL human beings there won't be any way to communicate at all, or know that others exist, and to learn from them. Learning is what makes intelligence possible--and the passing of information through generations. Hellen Keller fought extremely hard to overcome her sensory issues, but she had a good teacher, who presumably had someone else help them or guide them some. -- But to organically learn to speak when nobody can hear you, or to read when you can't even feel the braile, etc..would be nearly impossible.

Re: Researchers reach human parity in conversational speech recognition

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post #28

I look forward to being able to converse with Microsoft's research team as easily as I can with humans. I hope that one day, journalists can learn to write headlines with similarly low rates of error.

It's on purpose... journalists learned to do it this way.
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