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The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by coldtea »

microtonal wrote: post #27
jorgemf wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google devices are the only ones that have a sane code/update policy within Android They have 2 years update policy, the same as any other Android device. They sign it by contract.

They have 2 years update policy, the same as any other Android device. What do you mean? There are many Android devices that never receive an update at all.

I think parent means updating the device with a new one, when the subscription contract renews every 2 years.

Which is something else entirely.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by mbel »

pasta wrote: post #22
nextos wrote: post #7

A bit offtopic but I am very disappointed only Apple seems to have a clear plan, and makes continuous progress in careful iterations. I quit Apple precisely when the iPhone 1 was released due to ideological reasons, as I realised the whole ecosystem would become a walled garden. But I concede they have good products. I was looking forward to the new Pixel and Pixel XL. Google devices are the only ones that have a san…

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

There is no technical difficulty. The only difficulty here is to find business plan that is not negatively affected by this feature.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by coldtea »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #14

Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

Moved on to wireless (2nd gen Zik Parrots, there are better wireless headphones out there, but I like those and wont buy 3 because the changes are minimal. Waiting for them to put out a Zik 4).

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by BoorishBears »

mbel wrote: post #33
pasta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

There is no technical difficulty. The only difficulty here is to find business plan that is not negatively affected by this feature.

Maintaining a consistent level of quality is the main technical difficulty, see: Android

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by BoorishBears »

mbel wrote: post #33
pasta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

There is no technical difficulty. The only difficulty here is to find business plan that is not negatively affected by this feature.

Maintaining a consistent level of quality is the main technical difficulty, see: Android

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by paulcole »

mbel wrote: post #33
pasta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

There is no technical difficulty. The only difficulty here is to find business plan that is not negatively affected by this feature.

Wouldn't it be a UX nightmare?

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by LoSboccacc »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #14

Is anyone making different decisions based on the headphone jack? After a steady upgrade cadence since iPhone 1, this is the first time I've postponed my decision, still deciding how to proceed. Google is making the right moves but I'm not sure how much it can help them. Pixel is an excellent product, but you need a crowbar to pry people out of a well worn and comfortable habits.

I postponed because what I was hoping for was a new Iphone SE - I just like that form factor better.

Also, if people valued having wireless phones they'd had bluetooth headset already, Apple isn't exactly breaking new grounds here, just removing the options of having passive battery-less sets.

Since I'm locked to the system, I'm stuck with the 5S, for now. The SE was bad value (in Europe) when it came out and it's just getting worse and worse.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by pasta »

coldtea wrote: post #30
pasta wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. Why is this so hard to do? Can't a desktop OS compile the right rom and install it via USB? Edit: I understand this is a driver issue, but it seems there isn't that much difference in hardware in the mobile world.

> I wish there would be more distinction between hardware and software. Just buy an iPhone and install Winedows 10 or buy a S7 and install Sailfish. That would be the antithesis of what makes the iPhone good though -- the hardware/software limited fragmentation + lock-step iterations.

But why not have the freedom to use iOS on the iPhone because you think it works best that way?

A lot of people install Ubuntu on Macbooks for that reason. But right now it's very hard to install a different OS on your phone.

Re: The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus Review: Iterating on a Flagship

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Post by microtonal »

throwaway_45 wrote: post #13

I am surprised cell phones are still selling for 650 bucks. You can get a Chinese cell phone for 200 dollars which will do 90% of what latest apple or Samsung will do. Maybe it will be a little bit slower, but not 450 dollars slower.

Simple: (1) my iPhone's screen had some discolorization along the edges, I took it to the Apple store last Saturday; two hours later I pick up my iPhone with a new screen at no cost. (2) the day a new iOS is released (typically with security fixes), I can download it.

After trying some cheaper phones and two Android flagships (support was terrible), I realized that a great phone, with good warranty, and quick updates is worth more to me than the price hump.

Same for laptops. Why would I cut on a device that I use every day?

(Apropos laptops: we usually sell our MacBooks after ~3 years, I usually recoup 2/3rd of the cost and have a high-end laptop for 300-400 per three years.)

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