CIA ‘Siren Servers’ can predict social uprisings 3-5 days in advance

Post by jorblumesea » Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 1:24 PM UTC

benevol wrote: post #30

Dowwie wrote: post #13

Every time I read about expensive programs like these I think of what else that money could have been spent on that would prevent the need for populations to rise up against their governments.

Uprisings are nothing but a reaction to an unhealthy situation. Terrorism boils down to that same problem. Yet, we never seem to be too interested in understanding and resolving the issues we have created which led to these reactions.

Post by wooter » Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 1:36 PM UTC

briandear wrote: post #26

Dowwie wrote: post #13

Every time I read about expensive programs like these I think of what else that money could have been spent on that would prevent the need for populations to rise up against their governments.

So who gets that money? You support democracy in China and the Communists start an uprising. You support Communists and the other side starts an uprising; someone is always pissed off -- it isn't "government" vs. "the people." It's vastly more complex. Rarely are there two sides -- more like 200. Intelligence is a wilderness of mirrors as James Angleton had said. You could say "end the CIA" but that's sticking one's…

Post by benevol » Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

jorblumesea wrote: post #31

benevol wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uprisings are nothing but a reaction to an unhealthy situation. Terrorism boils down to that same problem. Yet, we never seem to be too interested in understanding and resolving the issues we have created which led to these reactions.

Which do you think guarantees an intelligence agency more funding? My feeling is that there is some conflict of interest here when it comes to fixing societies' woes and people who manufacture tear gas and drones. A lot of money to be made in keeping the status quo, what do you get from fixing the world?

Post by Intermernet » Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 1:54 PM UTC

analog31 wrote: post #28

gus_massa wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the CIA, there is a high chance that they are spending more money to fuel the revolution.

Well, that's one way of knowing when uprisings will happen. Deming wrote that if you have a policy of rewarding people for fighting fires, you also need to watch who is setting those fires.

Post by Create » Sat, Oct 08, 2016, 2:06 PM UTC

ptaipale wrote: post #22

contingencies wrote: post #8

I was personally in Western Tunisia (on the Algerian border) as the Tunisian uprising, the first of the Arab Spring, began. I was there a month. The protests were in full swing for weeks in every village in the west before anything hit western media. No travel warnings or any of that backdated pretend bureaucracy. I very much doubt the CIA had much of an idea what was going on outside the capital. The only western pr…

And the other way round. I lived in Beijing at the time when Americans bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade (May 1999). CNN and other Western news channels were showing films of furious Chinese protesters shouting and throwing things at the U.S. embassy buildings in Beijing. This went on for days. When I actually went to the Sanlitun embassy area, the closest thing to a riot was a stout Western woman walking her po…