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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Who says Mongo won't go eventually as well?

MongoDB is like the Microsoft of operating systems. Well promoted and easy to get going with. Hopefully they use the money they have to rewrite MongoDB to be better.

>MongoDB is like the Microsoft of operating systems.

I'm not a Windows fan, but that's harsh. http://cryto.net/~joepie91/blog/2015/07/19/why-you-should-ne...

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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This is honestly quite depressing for me to hear. I've always liked the team and the fantastic product they created. A couple of years ago, when I was working on a DB product myself, I met a few of their team and I was just blown away by how nice and welcoming they were, even to someone developing a product that could potentially compete with theirs.

Later onwards, when I was working on an NLP startup earlier this year, I opted to use RethinkDB because I had seen how clean, smooth, and fast its internals were. When I had a hiccup with running a cluster in here cloud and tweeted about it, Mike and others from. The RethinkDB team instantly reached out to me and helped me resolve the issue.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Very sad to hear, but hopefully the software will continue to be developed in an open source format. Keep this in mind when you invest in a certain technology: some organizations, especially nonprofits (for example, the Apache Software Foundation, Python Software Foundation, the new Node Foundation) are probably going to support and develop their software for extended periods of time relative to, say, a startup or fo…

This is why the key product should be open-source. Else it's too scary to invest in it: what if the company behind it folds, and you end up in a dead end? Only certain super-behemoths like Microsoft or Apple can afford to have their infrastructure products being closed-source.

How many people in the world can work on a large DB, even with source?

I am all for open source, but it doesn't make things like this is easy as some make it out to be. For example with Linux source, how long would it take me to fix a video driver bug? Perhaps a year?

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?

It is stable, performant, and has an amazing query language!

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#36
My greatest condolences to you guys. I have met with Slava a couple times, and with Mike several. They are incredibly down to earth and I felt they were very important to contributing to the democratization and humanization of databases (an otherwise unfortunately very vicious and elitist industry).

So what is next? I need to strongly remind people that both Mozilla Firefox and Blender were Open Source projects that survived their parent companies. This is not a death statement, and very easily could be a rebirth of Rethink.

Despite working on a competing database, I want to take a moment to explain why RethinkDB is the best in its chosen niche, by comparing it to other options out there:

- MongoDB. You won't get realtime updates and relational documents if you use MongoDB compared to RethinkDB.

- MySQL/Postgres. Rethink's awesome ReQL query language is a joy to work with compared to standard SQL. Without Rethink, you'll be missing document storage and live queries.

- gunDB. Our model is Master-Master, which while we think is great, it fundamentally restricts you from building Strongly Consistent systems, like banking apps, etc. RethinkDB is the only realtime updating Master-Slave system out there. They clearly win here.

- Redis. RethinkDB still has amazing speed and performance, but offers so much more than Redis by itself can.

- Hadoop. I know less here, but I've heard that RethinkDB has an amazing query optimization engine. Automatically taking your query and sharding it out across the distributed storage system.

RethinkDB is a winner in these technical aspects and fits for a very well defined problem. I encourage people to still use it and contribute to it if their business matches that. Don't let news like this deter you, or else we would have lost gems like FireFox and Blender.

Best regards to you guys, you are awesome.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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post #28

Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?

RethinkDB is production stable as shown by a number of users running it in production, this won't change that. I'm optimistic that it'll do just fine as an open-source project.

Jeroen / VeXocide here, one of the RethinkDB engineers

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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post #28

Bummer. Had Rethink in my list of things to eventually tinker-with. Is it stable where it should still be considered as a viable choice for your tech stack, or is this pretty much a deal-breaker?

I actually maintain an app that uses a RethinkDB cluster that's been up for over a year (despite occasional peak loads that exceed capacity), so yeah it's pretty stable. I've had multiple virtual servers fail (this is all in a cloud) and have to be replaced in that time frame, but the cluster itself never went down.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MongoDB is like the Microsoft of operating systems. Well promoted and easy to get going with. Hopefully they use the money they have to rewrite MongoDB to be better.

Okay...but if Rethink couldn't make their business self-sustaining, why would Mongo when there are a plethora of other open source databases/datastores that can do Mongo's job better than Mongo? EDIT: We'll just wait for Mongo to burn through all their cash then.

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