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Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

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Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what area you're from, but calling (supposedly yearly) salary raises of (just) under 10% to 'hardly make up for inflation' seems like, to put it mildly, a stretch.

Yeah, using € means he's in the European Union. In one of the countries that's using Euros. Eurostat estimates inflation at 1.5% in the Euro area.

It depends how you count, though. I recently read a book that claimed inflation is more like 6 or 7% - for the things that matter.

The government decides what goods to put into the "standard basket" to calculate the inflation. They can choose goods that make inflation numbers seem good.

Yes I know it is usually not 10% (although we might still be in the middle of an economic crisis - Greece, one of the Euro countries, just going bankrupt). I am not sure if a typical salary raise is 10%, either. I am pretty sure that with salary raises alone, you won't be making significant headway as an employee (your company won't upgrade you from 50K/year to 100K/year). The only way to earn more is typically to switch jobs.

I never had a contract that said "salary will be raised by 10% every year", it was just a number I took out of thin air.

Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

#32
In the video, Daniel makes the argument that extrinsic motivators harm productivity, based on the candle experiment. However, in this experiment, the reward caused short-term mental stress. I'm not sure that long-term monetary rewards would create the same effects.

Surely they aren't the best motivators, but I'd argue that they do more good than harm.

Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

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As a developer, I hate being involved in sweeping generalizations about developers. I'd honestly, like those that I work with to understand and recognize me as an individual with tastes and needs that may or may not be like any other member in any other role in a project.

Human language is full of figurative generalizations, and no author expects them to be taken literally (there are two in this sentence alone).

What the author means to say is "It is commonly believed that X is generally a good motivator. While sometimes true, there exist some professions (ie. much of software development), for which the reality is more subtle, and Y actually motivates people better", where X is various rewards (ex. financial) and Y is different opportunities for autonomy, mastery, and purpose. But that wouldn't fit in a title, so you get a simple generalization, with the deduction of specifics assumed to be an exercise for the readers.

Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expound upon why government mismanagement of the property market has caused NYC's absurd median rent? Or, at the very least, point me towards an interesting/insightful article on the subject? Thanks!

The problem isn't anything that the local government did, but what it didn't do. There are a lot of steps that could have been taken to lower the rent and property prices. For example, one measure is disallowing anyone to own property in New York that they don't live in at least 6 months plus 1 day. (The same is true of rent control, since a lot of RC people now live out of the city but keep the apartment because it'…

Latter idea is interesting. It certainly would have slowed the gentrification of Williamsburg, and kept it an interesting neighborhood for longer.

It would have also prevented the multitude of overpriced (and undersold) condos littering that area - along with the empty lots that were going to be overpriced condos before the bust.

Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

#37

In my recent ploy to get downvoted, I'll sum up my view of this: Fuck you, pay me.

In my recent ploy to get you upvoted, I'll point out that some of the most brilliant programmers I know break the generalization in the article and follow this philosophy. They work as consultants making 5x the salary of their full-time counterparts, with precisely your mentality: I don't care if you respect me or honor me with social motivation or whatever. This is a business transaction, and I'll crank out amazing code at amazing speeds as long as you keep paying me $250/hour.

Re: Top Motivators For Developers (Hint: not money)

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I have never asked for much, or pushed for raises. I was motivated by other things and figured hey, my managers are good guys, they'll do what's right. Turns out that when you discover you've been lower paid for years than some complaining bozo, it can be demoralizing. Or motivating - to get another job.

Pay is another aspect of recognition.

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