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iTunes will never work well

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Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by Bud »

flukus wrote: post #28
Bud wrote: post #17

Interesting that every single UI example in this article is from an old version of Windows. Fuck Windows. You want iTunes to work well? You want to see Apple's real UI? Then use their real platform.

If iTunes is so awkward why would I want to switch to a whole OS + computer made by the same company?

Perhaps because of said company's well-deserved reputation for overall OS and UI quality?

Everyone admits iTunes is not the greatest thing ever to spring from the mind of Steve. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by BishoyDemian »

Bud wrote: post #17

Interesting that every single UI example in this article is from an old version of Windows. Fuck Windows. You want iTunes to work well? You want to see Apple's real UI? Then use their real platform.

Oh Well, if Apple cannot do a half-decent App on windows maybe they shouldn't develop software targeting windows users until they can?

Microsoft, for example, are developing their Office suite of applications for OSX and they are not off the hook for any UI/UX issues for Mac Users. They must make the Apps work for that platform's users as they expect.

If they are marketing their platform and its services & Apps for other platforms, then at least they should give respect to those customer's choices.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by JoBrad »

Bud wrote: post #17

Interesting that every single UI example in this article is from an old version of Windows. Fuck Windows. You want iTunes to work well? You want to see Apple's real UI? Then use their real platform.

Or they could make it easier for me to manage my music without iTunes? I wouldn't even need it then.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by icebraining »

askafriend wrote: post #12
jheriko wrote: post #11

i don't understand how apple have a reputation for good ui... all of their stuff is terrible. the main problem: zero discoverablity - i need to google how to do things, then get some snotty fanboy answer about how easy and obvious it is, but there is literally no way to infer the functionality from the design. they do love to steal context too... and interrupt your flow... ... i could go on and on, but having zero-di…

To be fair, even Google has terrible UI/UX these days. Just look at Google Maps or Gmail. Material design isn't that great for discoverability either.

What's wrong with Google Maps? I've just been watching a non-technical friend use it and the only thing that wasn't intuitive was adding an extra stop to her trip (and even then, she discovered it without needing to search for help).

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by coleca »

sparkzilla wrote: post #22

I spent almost two days trying to resync my music after iTunes deleted it for no reason. It's the worst software on the planet.

After I subscribed to iTunes Match, it "helpfully" reworked all of my ~4300 song iTunes library so that most of the songs where I ripped a whole CD into iTunes were now spread across various "Greatest Hits" albums from the same (or sometimes different) artist, with random cover art. And after reading Jim Dalrymple's horror stories of upgrading to Apple Music, I am fearful both of ever discontinuing my iTunes Match subscription or upgrading to Apple Music.

My solution thus far has been to stop even trying to listen to music on iTunes and switch to podcasts instead (on Overcast, not Apple's horrible Podcasts app). #ThanksiTunes

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by ViViDboarder »

striking wrote: post #24
flukus wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They took away the zoom in/out floating buttons on the android maps app, managing to destroy discoverability and single handed operation.

At least on my OnePlus phone, you can double-tap the screen and drag up or down to zoom in or out, like a scroll wheel. It's better than buttons, in my humble opinion.

But not discoverable. There is no visual indicator telling you about the feature. Only trial and error.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by jsz0 »

I'm having a hard time understanding these tweets.

Playing a song and adding songs to 'up next' are two different things. That dialog box has saved me multiple times. What's wrong with it? It only occurs when you are telling iTunes to do conflicting things that it cannot resolve by itself. It's a better outcome than clearing a playlist someone may have spent a lot of time working on.

Software update and login dialogs? Yes those are a thing many apps include. What makes these unique or interesting?

The podcasts menu seems super straight forward to me. Am I missing something here? It says exactly what it does.

Contacting the iPhone update server dialog? Once upon a time Apple's servers would go down under a heavy load of people activating new iOS devices. Presumably the dialog is there to inform you there is a problem contacting the iPhone update servers. Either way I think it's long since been changed.

Re: iTunes will never work well

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Post by flukus »

Bud wrote: post #31
flukus wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If iTunes is so awkward why would I want to switch to a whole OS + computer made by the same company?

Perhaps because of said company's well-deserved reputation for overall OS and UI quality? Everyone admits iTunes is not the greatest thing ever to spring from the mind of Steve. But let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

> Perhaps because of said company's well-deserved reputation for overall OS and UI quality?

Why would I go off reputation and not my own experience with apple software?

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