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Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by Relys »

shmerl wrote: post #28

WSL is useful for some, but personally I'm more interested in reverse (Wine), mostly for some games without native Linux releases.

I setup PCI passthrough in a virtual machine awhile back on Arch and it worked excellent! https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3lno0t/gpu_pa...

The only issue I had was with my Oculus Rift, but I suspect I could have fixed it by getting a dedicated USB PCI card to passthrough. Anyways, for AAA games it worked wonderfully with very near native speeds.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by SwellJoe »

shmerl wrote: post #28

WSL is useful for some, but personally I'm more interested in reverse (Wine), mostly for some games without native Linux releases.

I was so excited when Linux versions started showing up on Steam. It meant I very rarely needed to reboot into Windows.

But, I've tinkered recently with Windows 10 and WSL, and it's actually really neat. They've done a remarkable job making it work like a real Linux system in a lot of regards; my projects kinda bump up against the limitations of that (as they are administrative tools and perform actions as root and such), and so I can see areas where it's still incomplete, but I'm honestly shocked at how well it all works.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by beefsack »

virtuallynathan wrote: post #14
Longhanks wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If your hardware supports it, you may be able to pull a 180 and run a Windows VM on the bare metal using hardware passthrough. There's a great community here: https://www.reddit.com/r/vfio

I do this, works great. Get >95% of native perf out of my GTX1070.

You need to run separate GPUs to achieve this though don't you?

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by icecreammatt »

beefsack wrote: post #33
virtuallynathan wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do this, works great. Get >95% of native perf out of my GTX1070.

You need to run separate GPUs to achieve this though don't you?

You can run your host OS using the integrated graphics and assign the dedicated card to the Windows VM

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by shmerl »

Relys wrote: post #31
shmerl wrote: post #28

WSL is useful for some, but personally I'm more interested in reverse (Wine), mostly for some games without native Linux releases.

I setup PCI passthrough in a virtual machine awhile back on Arch and it worked excellent! https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3lno0t/gpu_pa... The only issue I had was with my Oculus Rift, but I suspect I could have fixed it by getting a dedicated USB PCI card to passthrough. Anyways, for AAA games it worked wonderfully with very near native speeds.

Well, I'm simply not interested in using Windows for that, so for me it's either native, Wine or bust. Lot's of games work in Wine very well already. So far the main missing piece is DX11 support which they are gradually chiseling now. When something like Witcher 3 will start working in Wine, things will improve.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by socmag »

iamdave wrote: post #27
socmag wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious general open question here. It strikes me as odd that on the one hand you say you want to ditch windows in favor of FOSS, but then go on to say that you use Windows just to play games. The interesting thing is that games are some of the most costly and closed source things in software today. Windows costs the price of two games or less. Further, if you own a PlayStation, an XBox it's likely you have spent hun…

I didn't pick up many hints that they were using Linux purely because FOSS, that seems like a projection?; personally I went entirely Linux because I'm fond of the nearly infinitely granular controls I can make over the UI and UX (plus a few system level things) that I can share with others, get improvements on and reiterate into my daily use. Perhaps there's a similar trend here to the user you're responding to; I a…

Aside from the other comment where I hope I pointed out the reasoning.. The "Betray Open Source" bit.

You might be right that there is some projection.

I've been working on a project for quite some time now, without any pay and it is close to completion, and I more and more frequently reflect on how it should be positioned, marketed and ultimately generate some revenue so that I can actually afford my own apartment.

When I read HN I see this tension. Something comes out and the comments will be. Oh that's cool but fuck you, it's not FOSS but at the same time I see yay, another gadget I will immediately go and buy.

You just can't win.

I develop on Linux mostly and Windows occasionally, and I've more than paid my dues to the community over the years, but at some point hard decisions have to be made. FOSS is great when you have enough cash stashed to not give a damn or you are just doing it as a hobby.

I feel like I'm staring down the barrel of a gun no matter which business model I choose sometimes, and it pains me to have to make a decision, and neither one looks pleasant.

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by kuschku »

socmag wrote: post #24
Kenji wrote: post #9

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Wow, that works? Video games are pretty much the last thing that holds me on Windows. Everything else is solved on Linux. I am very interested in any solution for this problem.

Serious general open question here. It strikes me as odd that on the one hand you say you want to ditch windows in favor of FOSS, but then go on to say that you use Windows just to play games. The interesting thing is that games are some of the most costly and closed source things in software today. Windows costs the price of two games or less. Further, if you own a PlayStation, an XBox it's likely you have spent hun…

Free as in Freedom != Free as in Beer

Re: Arch Linux adapted for Windows Subsystem for Linux

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Post by shmerl »

SwellJoe wrote: post #32
shmerl wrote: post #28

WSL is useful for some, but personally I'm more interested in reverse (Wine), mostly for some games without native Linux releases.

I was so excited when Linux versions started showing up on Steam. It meant I very rarely needed to reboot into Windows. But, I've tinkered recently with Windows 10 and WSL, and it's actually really neat. They've done a remarkable job making it work like a real Linux system in a lot of regards; my projects kinda bump up against the limitations of that (as they are administrative tools and perform actions as root and s…

What kind scenarios do you find it useful in? I.e. when would you use it instead of native Linux for the same purpose?
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