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Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

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Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#31

This may be insensitive but is the name too close to "coma" given the odds that one of their users will end up in one (through the product's fault or not)?

Wow! Slow down there, Satan. I can already see the headlines.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#32

Hotz is a proven, remarkable engineer. But if there was ever a case for a "business guy" to be involved with a pitch this was it. His messaging works at some level - "I'm shipping something REAL and SMALL and ACHIEVABLE" But his pitch has two huge problems: (a) The delivery is rough. He comes across as patronizing and manic. I want to put my life in his hands? (b) He fumbles (like Musk has) with the difference betwee…

> Hotz is a proven, remarkable engineer.

Wait, Hotz, that name... is this Geohot?

...

Turns out, it is! [1] That makes this statement a lot more believable to me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#33
post #29

Jailbreaking cars now? Good for him! Can't wait to see this in action.

He actually registered as a Honda technician so as to get official access to the system.

Licensed or unlicensed, he's hacking it anyway. In the Hacker News sense of the word.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#34
post #16

Huge props to Geohot for getting this to market (barring it ships). Curious - if it replaces the rear-view mirror, then what do you use as a rear-view mirror?

Your side mirrors? It's legal to drive with two out of three mirrors for a reason (or at least, it is here, I assume it's the same in the USA).

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#35
post #19

> The $999 price point is designed to be affordable, and is possible because of the components Comma uses in its product, which tend to be inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics. "Inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics" aren't rated for automotive environmental conditions, nor do they have the immunity to interference (e.g., single event upsets) required for safety-critical systems.

Off-the-shelf in the context of electronics means that they didn't custom design some parts of it (for example using a SoC module rather than custom DDR layout), not that the parts are consumer rated.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#36

Mountain View to San Francisco Is this product actually just limited to driving 280 / 101? If so, that's a really interesting way to launch a minimum viable product in the self-driving space: Obviously you can't launch with anything incomplete in terms of safety, but you can launch with a highly restricted supported geography.

That would also help them in terms of weather predictability (no snow, very rarely rains)....

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#37
This is by far the sketchiest autonomous driving product I've seen so far.

Does the NHTSA do any testing for products like this? I'm usually not big on government regulation, but there definitely needs to be some kind of regulation and oversight for this kind of thing.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#38

Hotz is a proven, remarkable engineer. But if there was ever a case for a "business guy" to be involved with a pitch this was it. His messaging works at some level - "I'm shipping something REAL and SMALL and ACHIEVABLE" But his pitch has two huge problems: (a) The delivery is rough. He comes across as patronizing and manic. I want to put my life in his hands? (b) He fumbles (like Musk has) with the difference betwee…

I don't think the target audience is the average consumer. I Think the target audience at the moment is extreme early adopter, SF types who think "Screw the system! I want to live in the future NOW!"

And this pitch certainly works for those type of people.

Re: Comma.ai will ship a $999 autonomous driving add-on by the end of this year

#40
post #19

> The $999 price point is designed to be affordable, and is possible because of the components Comma uses in its product, which tend to be inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics. "Inexpensive off-the-shelf electronics" aren't rated for automotive environmental conditions, nor do they have the immunity to interference (e.g., single event upsets) required for safety-critical systems.

Just wait until Comma.ai causes an accident and the NHTSA finds they can't do an analysis of the system because that system is an end-to-end neural network.
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