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Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#31

Post by flukus »

baby wrote: post #4

What's new? I haven't been following bootstrap 4, ( especially since I switched to http://semantic-ui.com/ ). * I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?) * "Moved from Less to Sass". OK, that's a late addition but always welcomed. (Although there was already an unofficial sass version of bootstrap.) * "Opt-in flexbox support is here". Why would flexbox not be opt-out? * "giving you more op…

> I see a list of themes priced at 100$ :/ (maybe that's a good thing?)

I can see the utility in this. It's like an app store for bootstrap themes. The alternative is scouring the web, suffering the choice anxiety, working out if everything is compatible, etc.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Post by flukus »

ausjke wrote: post #23

It's said Bootstrap5 will possible use postcss, which is great. Hope this can be released soon, I honestly feel tired waiting for Angular2 and Bootstrap4 and I began to use something else instead(vuejs that is, stuck with Bootstrap3)

Is that 3 releases in a row where they've changed their css compiler?

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#33

Post by niftich »

ebbv wrote: post #24
mixmastamyk wrote: post #5

Beginning to wonder why they need to break compatibility so often?

Because it's not meant for you to upgrade an existing front end from Bootstrap 3 to Bootstrap 4. It's meant for starting a new project on Bootstrap 4. If you already have a working project on Bootstrap 3 why bother upgrading? If they had to maintain backwards compatibility they wouldn't be able to make a lot of the improvements they make.

Presumably because at some point Bootstrap 3 will stop getting bug fixes. Historically, what has been their end-of-life policy?

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#34

Post by brianwawok »

usaphp wrote: post #21

I see a lot of people here and on GitHub project page complaining about compatibility with older versions of bootstrap. I don't get it - if your project is already working on older version of bootstrap - why even bother updating it, I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something...I think it's neither bad or good thing that new version of bootstrap less and less compati…

> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something

Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also.

I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward.

What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

#36

Post by cloverich »

brianwawok wrote: post #34
usaphp wrote: post #21

I see a lot of people here and on GitHub project page complaining about compatibility with older versions of bootstrap. I don't get it - if your project is already working on older version of bootstrap - why even bother updating it, I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something...I think it's neither bad or good thing that new version of bootstrap less and less compati…

> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also. I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward. What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3

Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Post by brianwawok »

justrossthings wrote: post #26

We've been using maximum of 1140px col-xl width since 1920x1080 was considered the bleeding edge, but now monitors with 2560x1440 resolution are becoming more common- where 1140 barely covers half the width of the screen . Isn't about time we had a grid container that fixed this?

What is the average resolution of a phone held vert?

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Post by jaredklewis »

cloverich wrote: post #36
brianwawok wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also. I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward. What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

No, this fear seems totally unfounded.

Re: Bootstrap 4 Alpha 4 Released

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Post by wongarsu »

cloverich wrote: post #36
brianwawok wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean it's only CSS code, it's not like it will bring you any speed improvements or something Most people who use bootstrap3 use the JavaScript also. I suspect the worry is in 2 years (or however long they are bug fixing bootstrap3), newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3, and you will have a complex way forward. What bootstrap4 is doing is good, but it also can cause pain for users of bootstrap3.

> newer browsers will start to break on bootstrap3 Is that a common thing for browsers to break on older, previously compatible CSS?

Are there any cases of browsers breaking on older web standards? The only things I can think of that ever broke are plugins (Java, Flash) and vendor-specific extensions (e.g. lots of IE quirks).
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