Very exciting...I hope this works and they are able to bring half a billion people in remote areas online. Also interesting that they are future proof so their Infrastructure is ready for 5G and 6G.
Reliance’s Ambani Lays Out Plan for Low-Cost Mobile Data in India
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#32As people are mostly consuming data on mobile plans, doesn't the company get some of the costs back from peering backbone providers who have to pay to reach the end users?
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am reasonably sure that all other telecoms are doing this already. Attitude towards privacy of an average Indian leans towards "don't care". We seem to think privacy in numbers or something.
Well if huge number of people are living in or very close to poverty I do not think data privacy is very high on their priority.
People living close to poverty aren't going to be buying LTE phones or modems anytime soon.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Quoting: Privacy: An unnamed Jio executive mentioned “deep packet inspection” to Reuters, saying: “It’s called deep packet inspection, and what you can do with the analytics of that is mind-boggling,” he said, referring to a practice that digs into “packets” of data created by computers for efficiency, mining them for information. If this is happening and Jio is accessing data packets to develop patterns of user data…
I am not sure if "Big Data" is an accurate idea that fits Reliance's intentions to kick-start this. Surely, it sounds like a perfect recipe — onboard millions of customers and sell their 'data' — but on a secondary inspection it doesn't seems to be a smart idea. Can you even imagine the scale needed to process this kind of data? That's petabytes (rough estimate), every day. Maybe, it's theoretically possible but any…
speaking from experience with dpi. We did a POC project on analysing dpi data with hadoop,spark and other big data data tech.
You are right about the volumes, but wrong about it being impractical.
The volumes with a relatively small opco:
- +-7m subs
- 250gb just for the protocol classification. *
- Then you also have url logs etc
Key factors that reduce the costs and investment:
- commodity hardware (with hadoop etc)
- distributed
- query patterns
- you do not need to store every single record. The data can be aggregated up to hourly, daily, monthly the older it is
This is what we did, data was aggregated which significantly reduced storage.
Tested various options: Hive, hbase, druid
Edit: * per day
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#35This should be a concern in the US as well. AT&T Uverse is said to be doing deep packet inspection on all unencrypted traffic unless subscribers pay an additional ~$744/year to opt-out. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/atts-p... This should be a concern because such data on individual subscribers would be available to law enforcement and become a potential mechanism for highly detailed mass surve…
This is reality. The only reason they are giving out the service is against a legalized signatory from you saying they can monitor your usage
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#36Frankly there is something off about the separation and pricing of internet vs "internet via wifi/hotspot" on their service.
That was always there for US consumers. Now the indian players are adopting it
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#37Data is now the new oil according to reliance. "One company insider said the Jio logo is actually a mirror image of the word ‘oil,’ reflecting in a way Reliance’s journey from oil drilling to data mining"
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#38WSJ.com asks to sign in to read full content. Not cool man.
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#39This is huge. Quoting from a piece linked below. "Now, here’s my not-so-big bet: Jio will not make its magic number of 100 million customers in one year. The person who offers me the best odds before end of Saturday on a $200 bottle of a single malt is on. In fact, more from my smoky mirror: Jio will struggle for at least a few years before it starts making a dent in the telecom market." http://goo.gl/hH7Fai
Please don't use link-shorteners to hide the link unnecessarily, especially if it is from your own publication. (I love Factordaily, but this is needless).
Link: http://factordaily.com/mukesh-ambani-reliance-jio-launch-imp...
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#40This should be a concern in the US as well. AT&T Uverse is said to be doing deep packet inspection on all unencrypted traffic unless subscribers pay an additional ~$744/year to opt-out. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/atts-p... This should be a concern because such data on individual subscribers would be available to law enforcement and become a potential mechanism for highly detailed mass surve…
> unless subscribers pay an additional ~$744/year to opt-out
It probably goes on to suggest that this is the amount service providers expect to benefit per customer by inspecting your data. It's evident that those (including marketing agencies) who compensate the service providers in lieu of this data would benefit even more. Creepy world.