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My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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He mentions that as the only thing his mother would like about the device. The paragraph above the one you quote says this: I also work with people who are not very deeply skilled in computer technology, exactly the kind of people this product is supposedly for. It won't work for them, because they need to multi-task too. We learned a long time ago that inexpert users don't use less resources, they just use them diff…

You make a good point, which proves that neither of us actually knows which phrasing Dave Winer meant. Don't be a jerk. We live in the same city and might actually meet at some point. I don't like being on bad terms with people I've never met.

"Don't be a jerk."

If you read his comment carefully you will see that he simply stated a fact. Stating a fact is not being a jerk. However, by saying "don't be a jerk" you've added a personal insult to the conversation.

Tone is really hard to convey on the Internet and I also hope you don't misread the tone of this comment. I'm writing this in the spirit of a friendly reminder that I myself need sometimes, too.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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Reminded me of this Chris Dixon article: "the next big thing always starts out being dismissed as a “toy.”" http://cdixon.org/2010/01/03/the-next-big-thing-will-start-o...

I feel that it's important, from time to time, to remember that plenty of things that aren't the next big thing are also variously laughed at, ignored, dismissed, and so on.

I'm not making any predictions about how the iPad will do (sitting and waiting will get me better information than pulling a guess out of the air), to make sure that's clear. Just reminding myself that it possible that perhaps Apple will produce a product that won't change the world.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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"The usual fanboy rebuttal is that [the iPad] is not designed for what I do." How does stating _a fact_ like this make one a fanboy? This re-reminds me why Dave Winer irritates me. Yes, the iPad does not offer a development environment. Yes, the iPad lacks file-system access. So what? Dave also invokes the classic 'my mom's going to love this' line. I think my mother will too. And I cannot wait to replace her Windows…

I don't mean to be pedantic, but he didn't say that stating that the iPad is not designed for what he does means that you are fanboy. He merely said that fanboys would say that, which is likely true since I think almost everyone would say that (including fanboys, but also many non-fanboys).

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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They are barriers because if Apple added an "advanced" button somewhere that gives you root, then tons of ordinary users would press it (perhaps after being instructed to by an online tutorial, or by a scam), break things, and find that their iPod does not "just work" and be unhappy. Apple would be adding a button that you can press to enable your device to get malware, and that will confuse and harm lots of people.…

I respectfully disagree. They should have an advanced button. Pressing it orders you a MacBook Pro. ;)

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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Most notable omission is a camera. Skype video is the killer app for this machine.

people keep saying this, and i keep thinking it'll be shot from a truly horrible angle and will be really unflattering.

Bad angle, really? This is freaking Apple we're talking about if Jobs can't resolve something as simple as a camera angle (hello dozen phones that came out last year with a swivel mounted camera to directly resolve this problem) then he should resign as an incompetent fool. He managed to bring Apple back from the brink and revolutionize the industry, if he can't resolve a camera angle issue he's a complete fraud with more luck than Jesus crossed with that air stewardess who fell from flight altitude crossed with the bastard child of Anakin Skywalker and Yoda.

I'm sorry, bad camera angle is the biggest piece of piss poor excuse I've ever heard. I'd honestly be more appeased if Apple simply said "sorry, things got missed out that we wanted to implement, shit happens - that's life".

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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post #33

Reminded me of this Chris Dixon article: "the next big thing always starts out being dismissed as a “toy.”" http://cdixon.org/2010/01/03/the-next-big-thing-will-start-o...

I feel that it's important, from time to time, to remember that plenty of things that aren't the next big thing are also variously laughed at, ignored, dismissed, and so on. I'm not making any predictions about how the iPad will do (sitting and waiting will get me better information than pulling a guess out of the air), to make sure that's clear. Just reminding myself that it possible that perhaps Apple will produce…

"a product that won't change the world."

Like MobileMe? :)

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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post #33

Reminded me of this Chris Dixon article: "the next big thing always starts out being dismissed as a “toy.”" http://cdixon.org/2010/01/03/the-next-big-thing-will-start-o...

I feel that it's important, from time to time, to remember that plenty of things that aren't the next big thing are also variously laughed at, ignored, dismissed, and so on. I'm not making any predictions about how the iPad will do (sitting and waiting will get me better information than pulling a guess out of the air), to make sure that's clear. Just reminding myself that it possible that perhaps Apple will produce…

I think most criticism has been constructive and well placed. It's a large iPod touch with potential at this point. After playing with it for a good 10 minutes it still feels wanting. Consumption means different things to different people. In my case I wouldn't dream of using the Internet without a keyboard, except on the iPhone where the absolute convenience of size overrides the restriction of input. As a solution for my mother...maybe. I'm willing to wait another revision before I get her to switch.

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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Having played with my friend's iPad a bunch today I am extremely impressed. I can't wait for my 3g one to arrive. He put it best by saying: "It's not a single big WOW thing, it's that the whole iPad feels exactly right. Everything you do just feels natural." My take away was that the large touch screen makes interacting with the computer amazingly intuitive. I could go on about the video quality, battery life, etc...…

That echoes my experience. No single WOW thing (well, maybe looking at my photos, but that may be because my photos are awesome). Everything is very fast and crisp and right.

The browser on the iPhone always felt like a last-browser-of-desperation except for sites specifically tuned to it. On iPad, it's actually usable. The sites that I work on all look great (with the exception of embedded flash video, naturally)

Re: My verdict after one day of using the iPad

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They are barriers because if Apple added an "advanced" button somewhere that gives you root, then tons of ordinary users would press it (perhaps after being instructed to by an online tutorial, or by a scam), break things, and find that their iPod does not "just work" and be unhappy. Apple would be adding a button that you can press to enable your device to get malware, and that will confuse and harm lots of people.…

It would be rather simple to have a soft-root that allows root-like implementation without affecting the actual core files of the system. The iPod deploys with a ROM section for the core files to restore the system, truly this is all the iPhone or iPad need (and AFAIK both have). You would only require a more foolproof implementation to ensure even the gravest idiot would be able to save their device by plugging it into their PC.

However, I believe your latter point is right. I won't dump any amount of money on an iPhone/iPad until it's able to run multiple programs, and until it is route access is likely pointless.

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