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Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Such a Hacker News answer. This is embarrassing.

You didn't detect the note of humour in my comment? :)

I'm claiming Poe's Law here. This is such a neckbeard response it's ridiculous.

"If nobody ever had sex we'd wipe out STDs within a generation!"

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

A bit impracticle given real world data shows that "About 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an affair at some point in some marriage "Monogamy Myth", Therapist Peggy Vaugn" aka ~50% of couples who think they are monogamous are actually non monogamous (non consensually)

Well, it works well for me. 16 years married, and I have never cheated. In fact most of my friends and colleagues have been married a long time, including my friend Irving. He and his wife have been married for 70 years (they're both 92).

The percentages are meaningless when we're talking personal choice. It is a valid way of avoiding STD's, and a choice I made back in 1990 when I was 20.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

Yup, pretty much. STDs are unavoidable, given promiscuity: there's just too much going on for diseases not to evolve and spread.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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If officials from the U.N. or from the WHO warn about something, I sleep particularly well at night, knowing that it's probably blown out of proportion by several orders or magnitude. Remember the bird flu? My employer at the time bought truckloads of sanitizers, plastic bins and related stuff. A complete waste of money. These people have lost every last shred of credibility for me.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

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Here is a place to start http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2016/01/29/the-rac... And given that you can use sugar to help heal wounds http://www.drwhitaker.com/sugar-on-wounds-for-healing/ what if you inject a sugar syrup into the bladder every time after you pee. Might work. Research is needed.

Um, not a fan of your sugar syrup in the bladder idea. Stuff I have read indicates that antibiotic resisatant infections basically terraform the body, like an alligator making swamps in the American South. One of the things they typically do is making the body more acid. So, if you can reverse the acidity, the biofilm starts breaking up and the infection becomes treatable again.

Mz: "...like an alligator making swamps in the American South..."

Alligators don't make swamps - they live in swamps. They do dig "alligator holes" but that is hardly swamp-making.

Perhaps you're thinking of beavers, who _do_ very significantly modify waterways and lakes by building dams and nests?

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

#37
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Rather than weakening the attacker (killing the bacteria) we could look for ways to strengthen the organism (boost the body's own defense mechanisms). The health industry as a whole, has been weakened by the discovery of antibiotics and designer molecules, and as a result now spends too many resources on looking for killer chemicals (antibiotics and other drugs). But there are other ways. One way is to follow the thr…

Crazy - I never actually took a step back and wondered if we could boost our defense as a strategy. In a geeky way, we keep drinking health potions to recover HP but if we had a shit ton of armor then we wouldn't need the HP potions to begin with. :)

This is called immunotherapy and it is not mutually exclusive, and it is being worked on to treat certain diseases. However it's not nearly as simple as you might think and many immunomodulatory drugs have considerably worse side effects.

Immunomodulatory drugs to some extent "predate" modern antibiotics before the antibiotic boom and the advancement in modern wide spectrum antibiotics immunomodulatory drugs were commonly used to treat severe infections.

The side effects of these drugs are very very severe, can be fatal, and can cause hereditary malformations Thalidomide is probably the most famous case of a "wonder drug" going very very wrong it is still used today in extreme cases of leprosy and to treat some cancers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide

But just to be clear these type of treatments are just as "designer" molecules as any other drug, there are no magic fixes in medicine you find the most effective vectors to attack a disease and you use them.

But overall >Crazy - I never actually took a step back and wondered if we could boost our defense as a strategy.

This is a bit silly, we have had vaccines before we had antibiotics :) we wash our hands, keep ourselves clean, dress wounds etc. these are all "defense boosting" strategies, and they both predate and coexist with "offensive" treatments.

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

#38
post #14

Here's a novel thought: Monogamy. Wait to have sex until you're married, then have only one sexual partner your entire life. That'll deal with the problem, and every other sexually transmitted disease out there. It's almost too simple to work, but I've heard that over time - thousands of years in fact - it is a strategy humans have used to build not just safe sex, but many other benefits as well http://www.theglobean…

Here's a novel thought: USE A CONDOM.

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So, basically, nothing to worry, technology will save us in the end. And it might -- long term. Only, as things are now, between an antibiotic stopping working and finding a replacement, there could be tens of millions of deaths... Aside from wishful thinking there's nothing that guarantees that we'll find the next cure as soon as an old one becomes obsolete.

Everything is a probability right? I generally don't spend my days worrying about how I'm going to survive the next asteroid strike on the planet (guaranteed to to be an issue at some point). I also get in my car and drive on the highway between here and there even though I know there are people driving under the influence that can kill me if they hit my car at speed. There are people who are getting shot by other pe…

How is research into new treatments for bacterial infections and stricter regulations on how to use antibiotics counter-productive?

Re: Gonorrhea Is Becoming Untreatable, U.N. Health Officials Warn

#40
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A bit impracticle given real world data shows that "About 60 percent of men and 40 percent of women will have an affair at some point in some marriage "Monogamy Myth", Therapist Peggy Vaugn" aka ~50% of couples who think they are monogamous are actually non monogamous (non consensually)

Well, it works well for me. 16 years married, and I have never cheated. In fact most of my friends and colleagues have been married a long time, including my friend Irving. He and his wife have been married for 70 years (they're both 92). The percentages are meaningless when we're talking personal choice. It is a valid way of avoiding STD's, and a choice I made back in 1990 when I was 20.

Not to be a downer, but you've only effectively lived 1/3rd of your life, not to mention is that you aren't the only partner in your relationship.

Monogamy may work, safe sex pretty much always work :) Most people not only not getting married at 20 if at all these days, they are also having sex at an earlier age.

GL telling 16 year olds to wait, I wasn't going to get married in high school, and I had no intention of waiting then or even with hindsight now.

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