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A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
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#32The New York Times has a long history of cooperating with three-letter agencies as a state mouthpiece. The irony of their publishing this article is delicious.
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#34I use a simple method to recognize Putin's propagandists: Ask if someone is willing to condemn Putin for doing similar invasions as Hitler did in the 1930s. If the only answers you get to that question are personal attacks and attacks on USA, the person writing is probably working in St Petersburg and paid to write things on the internet. Edit: 1. I am not American "pabloski", at least get the unserious personal atta…
Are you sure they are not the USA who are doing similar invasions as Hitler? Do you remember? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria ( through Al-Nusra aka Al-Qaeda, yes Al-Qaeda! ). WTF, at least listen to Gen. Wesley Clark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM How can you ( americans ) condemn Russia without an ounce of shame? I am an EU citizen, so I am not russian, not a Putin shill, not a payed troll. And what ab…
This was a coherent argument until it got to the "shameless media who attack Donald Trump on each word he spells" and then cited RT about Syria.
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#35The New York Times has a long history of cooperating with three-letter agencies as a state mouthpiece. The irony of their publishing this article is delicious.
every time Russia is mentioned on HN, folks just happen to want the narrative thread to be how unfairly persecuted Russia is by the western media.
Re: A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories
#36I use a simple method to recognize Putin's propagandists: Ask if someone is willing to condemn Putin for doing similar invasions as Hitler did in the 1930s. If the only answers you get to that question are personal attacks and attacks on USA, the person writing is probably working in St Petersburg and paid to write things on the internet. Edit: 1. I am not American "pabloski", at least get the unserious personal atta…
Are you sure they are not the USA who are doing similar invasions as Hitler? Do you remember? Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria ( through Al-Nusra aka Al-Qaeda, yes Al-Qaeda! ). WTF, at least listen to Gen. Wesley Clark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8YtF76s-yM How can you ( americans ) condemn Russia without an ounce of shame? I am an EU citizen, so I am not russian, not a Putin shill, not a payed troll. And what ab…
It's entirely possible to be opposed both to US and Russia foreign interventions. And yet you chose to presume the opposite about berntb post. Why is that?
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#37With the Russian situation being so dire, is it so hard for Western counterpropaganda to beat that?
What is so dire about the Russian situation ?
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#38Based on the number of false equivalencies and specious arguments in this comment thread, it looks like the Russian trolls also have Hacker News on their roster of Western social media sites.
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#39Both Russian and American medias are two sides of same coin. Both are expert in spreading propaganda, only difference is American media is convincing and Russian media appears to be fake and there is no freedom of media in Russia and freedom of media is rarely used in the US. I follow RT and NYTimes, and I can say both have left journalism long back.
Whatever anyone's qualms about the New York Times, I find it hard to take seriously any argument that puts it on the same level as RT. The New York Times is not in fact an instrument of the US Government.
Correct. The NYT is an instrument of the Democrat party, just as Fox News is an instrument of the GOP. Journalism has abandoned the pretense of impartiality, and it is especially notable during this election cycle.
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#40The New York Times has a long history of cooperating with three-letter agencies as a state mouthpiece. The irony of their publishing this article is delicious.
Can you provide some sources? Thanks.
The NYT admits in this death notice for a spy that it was it manipulated by the CIA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/10/us/austin-goodrich-spy-who...
In 1976 George HW Bush declared that the CIA wouldn't manipulate the media anymore but this NYT article from a couple months later shows the feds backpedaling on that promise, along with some specific examples of media manipulation from the time: http://www.nytimes.com/1976/04/27/archives/cia-will-keep-mor...
I haven't found any evidence of post-Cold War media manipulation of this sort, but I don't think American trust in the media has ever fully recovered since those days.