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The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

Regulated online poker is mostly being fought by the brick and mortar casino industry to protect their revenue.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I live (Québec in Canada) the government has a crown corporation that has a monopoly on gambling. Competition is illegal because it would make the government lose revenues.

Publicly run gambling is interesting. I mean, a bookie is a bookie, but it seems a safer bet if your bookie is a publicly accountable institution.

Until you realize that the "muscle" coming to collect is your local law enforcement..

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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With user acquisition costs of "$190 per user for DraftKings and $110 for FanDuel" [0], what, besides long term casino-style gambling addiction, can hope to recover the costs? And unlike casino gamblers, don't 'bro-classic' people tend to grow out of these things after a while? [0] http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/30/draftkings-fa...

Change $190 to $500k and I think you just described venture capitalism!

But without the instant feedback and athleticism, which is why millennials aren't venture capitalists. That, and most don't have $500k.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

It's a religion thing here in the US. Large Christian churches (Methodist for example) are against gambling on moral grounds, fight addictions, personal weakness, avarice, etc. Since money and an ability to get members to turn out to vote run everything in American politics, you end up with many states banning gambling on "moral grounds". About 8 years ago where I live they wanted to built a horse racing track and we…

Gambling is also strictly regulated in China, Japan, Muslim countries, Russia, and good chunks of Europe, and that's just the countries/regions I checked, I'm sure there are others. A local religion-based explanation is at best an incomplete picture of why people object to gambling. Like many aspects of civilization where the code happens to live in religion, it probably is corrosive to civilized behavior, because it seems like all successful civilizations put substantial regulations on it. (As cause and effect is hard to tease apart that's about all I can establish in an HN post.) Given the high frequency with which gambling is deregulated and then often very quickly reregulated (by the standards of government regulation motion, anyhow), it is hard to believe all of those cultures are reacting to irrational, unrealistic concerns.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

> I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal?

Because the State can't stand the competition. Note that most numbers games (i.e., private lotteries) have better payout odds than the State lottery.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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post #35

I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

> I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Because the State can't stand the competition. Note that most numbers games (i.e., private lotteries) have better payout odds than the State lottery.

In many cases it was made illegal and state lotteries only created much later, so that explanation for why it was made illegal is not plausible.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I live (Québec in Canada) the government has a crown corporation that has a monopoly on gambling. Competition is illegal because it would make the government lose revenues.

Publicly run gambling is interesting. I mean, a bookie is a bookie, but it seems a safer bet if your bookie is a publicly accountable institution.

Yes, also: profits from the operation are going to the state, which presumably puts them to better use than the local gangster.

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Publicly run gambling is interesting. I mean, a bookie is a bookie, but it seems a safer bet if your bookie is a publicly accountable institution.

Yes, also: profits from the operation are going to the state, which presumably puts them to better use than the local gangster.

One should always endeavor to enrich the most powerful gangster around, so giving the money to the state makes sense

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

You want it to be regulated, and the government also needs to be able to collect tax revenue from it.

and not be used for obvious money laundering scenarios.

"Hey boss, Guido picked up the unsupervised merchandise off the back of our truck, but don't worry he just lost a $10000 bet on our blackjack table." (wink, wink)

Re: The implosion of the daily fantasy industry

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I'm wondering why gambling(except for lotteries and casinos, etc.) was made illegal? Was it a 'we must protect people from themselves' type of law? Or a 'casinos have lobbied for protection of their business' type of law? Or 'this type of industry requires regulation but its too damn expensive to regulate' type of law? I say this as the guy who consistently makes fun of the lottery while also buying video game 'this…

Pre-regulation gambling was often for much higher stakes. Gambling in modern times is for fairly low stakes in comparison. Legalized casinos are supposed to control the amount that people lose and keep it to reasonable values.

Second, that was a time where households relied on a single male breadwinner. If that man became a gambling addict, it destroyed not only his future, but the future of his wife and children as well. So much the same as the Temperance movement, anti-gambling laws were aimed at protecting the entire family.

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