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Under Construction (2015)

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Re: Under Construction (2015)

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post #5

I'd totally forgotten about the Book of Mozilla easter egg ('about:mozilla' in Firefox's url bar). Just re-checked, and yup it's still there, albeit a different text.

about:robots is still around, too. That one seems unchanged from when it was first introduced, including using the older style of Firefox error page.

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#32
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then there was webpagesthatsuck.com where you could see the latest mystery navigation idea from someone who should know better. Or some multinational site looking like a geocities homepage. I never could decide if the design of pagesthatsuck was deliberate satire or accidental, but it was always an ugly site itself. It used to be fun back then browsing sites like clientsfromhell, the similar programming one who's nam…

> the similar programming one who's name I now forget http://thedailywtf.com/ maybe?

That's the one! Seems to be more browsing friendly than last I remember it. Far better than the other two currently are.

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#33
post #29

The best part is: > (while writing this article, I discovered that if you Google for the phrase "blink tag", you get... well...) You should definitely do this.

Google has some more search easter eggs, like 'askew' and 'zerg rush'

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#34
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frames were brilliant. It's just they had a few unpleasant side effects, that could have been ironed out given the will. One html menu/navigation as a frame that was editable in one place without resorting to programming languages/constructs for file includes. Piecemeal content aggregation via frames may, just may have been a better approach to web page building.

I really prefer just keeping a standard heading with an index link in it. Most people open pages in new tabs now anyway so you get the same effect for less.

At the time most popular web browsers didn't have tabs. If you wanted to have two pages open at once, you had to open them in separate windows.

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#35

I started offering hosted guestbooks as a Perl CGI script, backed by a homegrown pipe-delimited text file database, in the 1990s. I moved them over to PHP and MySQL in 2002. 11,000 of those guestbooks are still linked from live websites, and about 600 have had people add new entries in the past year. I added reCAPTCHA a few years ago to keep the spam to a minimum, otherwise they look essentially the same as they did…

C'mon - we need some links to examples. :)

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#36

Article missed loads. Like the fact that a h1 would pretty much take up all the screen real estate back then because 800x600px resolution was luxurious back in the day. So no one used h1,h2 etc. They just bolded text instead for headings. And used pixel fonts to get the font size down to a readable 10px to squeeze in text navigation where icons didn't cut the mustard. Having said that the default grey background was…

> Some websites were made entirely in flash. Others just had a splash page.

Those were the best ones! http://html5zombo.com

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#37
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the similar programming one who's name I now forget http://thedailywtf.com/ maybe?

That's the one! Seems to be more browsing friendly than last I remember it. Far better than the other two currently are.

It used to be much, much uglier - I think they had taken inspiration from the default ASP.NET error pages...

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#38

Article missed loads. Like the fact that a h1 would pretty much take up all the screen real estate back then because 800x600px resolution was luxurious back in the day. So no one used h1,h2 etc. They just bolded text instead for headings. And used pixel fonts to get the font size down to a readable 10px to squeeze in text navigation where icons didn't cut the mustard. Having said that the default grey background was…

Then there was webpagesthatsuck.com where you could see the latest mystery navigation idea from someone who should know better. Or some multinational site looking like a geocities homepage. I never could decide if the design of pagesthatsuck was deliberate satire or accidental, but it was always an ugly site itself. It used to be fun back then browsing sites like clientsfromhell, the similar programming one who's nam…

Web Pages That Suck still exists and gets updated every now and again:

http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/dailysucker/

And yeah, the ugly design is a deliberate thing. From the FAQ page:

> Why does your site suck? I came here looking to learn good web design techniques.

> I'm always puzzled — and a little bit scared by this question. After all, the domain is called "Web Pages That Suck" not "Web Pages That Don't Suck."

> Actually, there was a version of this site back in 1998-1999 that was really nice (Michael Willis, my co-author created it), but I got rid of it because it looked too nice.

http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/faq.html

So yeah. It sucks because hey, what better way to cover bad websites than on a website that's pretty bad in of itself?

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#39
Status bar abuse. Back when web browsers (and most other applications) had a status bar across the bottom of the window, there was a JavaScript API that could manipulate the text displayed there. A common trick was to "scroll" a message in the status bar by constantly updating it with all the letters shifted to the left by one.

Re: Under Construction (2015)

#40
post #25

Well, some things don't change. Back then we had a ton of misinformation on poorly done personal home pages and fan sites, now have a ton of misinformation in poorly done news articles and social media posts. Always fun to look and see which of the 226 different ways to get Mew a Pokemon site would post, or which of the equally large number of ways to get the Triforce in Ocarina of Time you'd see on a Zelda site. Top…

I really did try to find an active webring while writing the article, but there aren't any. webringworld.org doesn't actually offer any real services.
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