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Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

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Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#31

Sigh. Mark Zuckerberg is not the fellow to listen to if you want to build the future. He's only managed to re-invent the past. AOL, MySpace, FriendFeed, and probably a few others I'm forgetting. edit: Folks are getting a bit philosophical so I'll clarify. There are better models to look up to if you want to invent the future: Bret Victor, Elon Musk, Alan Kay, Richard Feynman, etc. Each of those people did invent the…

Sigh, you've overlooked the fact that he built a hugely profitable business so now he can now throw money into "building the future". AI, VR, etc.

Google was probably the 20th search engine. They make most of their money selling ads.

Microsoft just rebuilt CP/M and bought many of their big apps.

It's what you do after you build a great business that matters.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#33

I'm not sure what to think about Mark's non-answer to: "So can you tell us about some of the hardest parts in the history of the early history of Facebook?" (He basically says the hardest point was not selling for $1 billion, and that it was a non-issue months later.)

Probably he can't talk about it without lawyers first, because remember, Mark isn't a single founder.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#34

Link to Scribd is down but I copied the text visible in the embed. Here you go: Interviewer: Welcome to How to Build the Future. Today our guest is Mark Zuckerberg. Mark, you have one of the most influential companies in the history of the world, so we are especially excited that you are here. Mark: I'm not sure where to go from there. Interviewer: Why don't we start with just the early days of Facebook? Tell us what…

Using a script someone posted the last time someone did this (fold --spaces -w 75 | sed -e 's/^/ /'), plus 30 seconds in Sublime to break the q/a apart. I'll leave the rest as an exercise for the readers. :)

  Interviewer: Welcome to How to Build the Future. Today our guest is Mark 
  Zuckerberg. Mark, you have one of the most influential companies in the 
  history of the world, so we are especially excited that you are here.
  
  Mark: I'm not sure where to go from there.
  
  Interviewer: Why don't we start with just the early days of Facebook? Tell 
  us what it was like when you started it.
  
  Mark: Sure. So for me, the thing that I was really fascinated by and 
  always have been is people and how people work. When I was in college, I 
  studied psychology and computer science, and one of the things that you 
  learn when you study psychology is that there are all these parts of the 
  brain which are geared just towards understanding people, understanding 
  language, how to communicate with each other, understanding facial 
  expressions, emotions, processing. Yet when I looked out at the Internet 
  in 2004, which was when I was getting started, you can find almost 
  anything else that you wanted. You could find news, movies, music, 
  reference materials, but the thing that mattered the most to people, which 
  as other people and understanding what's going on with them, just wasn't 
  there. And I think what was going on was that all that other content was 
  just out there able to be indexed by search engines and other services, 
  but in order to understand what's going on with people, you needed to 
  build tools that made it so that they could express what was going on with 
  themselves. I wanted to figure out what courses to take, so I built this 
  little website, Course Match, that just made it so that you could enter 
  what courses you were taking, and you could click on them and see who else 
  was in them, and it did all these correlations. It told you people who 
  took this course were likely to enjoy this course too. And the thing that 
  just struck me from the beginning is people would just spend hours 
  clicking through. Here are the courses that people are taking, and, wow, 
  isn't it interesting that this person is interested in these things? It 
  was just text, right? There was nothing that was super interesting there, 
  but that just struck me as people have this deep thirst to understand 
  what's going on with those around them. And there were probably 10 other 
  things like that that I built when I was at Harvard before I actually got 
  around to building the first version of Facebook that kind of added a lot 
  of these things together.
  
  Interviewer: Did you think Facebook was going to be a company when you 
  started?
  
  Mark: I built the first version of Facebook because it's something that my 
  friends and I wanted to use at Harvard, a directory and a way to connect 
  with the other people around us, and I didn't think at all that it was 
  going to be a company. I remember very specifically the night that we 
  launched the first version. I went out to get pizza with a couple of my 
  friends who now work here. And I remember really clearly we were talking 
  about how one day we thought that someone was going to build a community 
  like this for the world and that that would be some company, but it 
  clearly wasn't going to be us. It just, it wasn't even...
  
  Interviewer: It didn't even occur.
  
  Mark: Yeah, no. I mean it wasn't even an option that we considered that it 
  might be us. We just weren't focused on building a company back then. We 
  were just building something that we thought would be useful at our school.
  
  Interviewer: So as you look back, is there something that made Facebook 
  different from the other projects that you had built that allowed it to 
  turn into this, the company it is today?
  
  Mark: Well, for one, I think we kept going [laughs], so the others, Course 
  Match and just the other different crowd source tools, they kind of served 
  their purpose and then we were done, whereas with Facebook there was just 
  such...people loved it and had such an intensity of using it. I think 
  within a couple of weeks two-thirds of students at Harvard were using it. 
  And all these other students at MIT and other local universities were 
  writing in asking us if we could open up a Facebook at their school, so we 
  kind of just followed that. Again, I didn't set out and my roommates 
  didn't set out to build a service that we were going to turn into a 
  company, but we just kind of followed what people wanted, and that led us 
  to expand it to all these other schools and eventually beyond schools and 
  to...at some point, once we'd hired a bunch of people, we decided to turn 
  it into a company and go for this mission of connecting the world, but 
  that's not where we started.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#35
> I heard this story recently that at this conference where

> someone has built a machine learning application where you

> can take a picture of a lesion on someone's skin, and it can

> detect instantly whether it's skin cancer with the accuracy

> of the best dermatologists and doctors in the world. So who

> doesn't want that, right?

I wonder what that app is? Is it SkinVision[1] or IBM's proprietary medical techonology from T.J Watson Research Center[2]?

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12299930

[2]: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2860758/ibm-detects-ski...

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#36
post #27

The TL;DR of how Zuck wants to build FB's future w/his quotes: 1) "Connectivity, so getting everyone in the world on the Internet." 2) "The next one is AI. I think that that's just going to unlock so much potential in so many different domains." 3) "[The next computing platform] - I think that's going to be virtual reality and augmented reality." For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread he lays out a pre…

Connectivity, AI, VR?

You don't have to be a billionaire to see those being important. Hopefully we'll have a more benevolent entity than Facebook bringing us into that future.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#38
post #27

The TL;DR of how Zuck wants to build FB's future w/his quotes: 1) "Connectivity, so getting everyone in the world on the Internet." 2) "The next one is AI. I think that that's just going to unlock so much potential in so many different domains." 3) "[The next computing platform] - I think that's going to be virtual reality and augmented reality." For all the flack that Zuck is getting in this thread he lays out a pre…

Connectivity, AI, VR? You don't have to be a billionaire to see those being important. Hopefully we'll have a more benevolent entity than Facebook bringing us into that future.

You don't, but it helps make it real when you can acquire the best minds in that space.

Re: Sam Altman talks with Mark Zuckerberg about how to build the future [video]

#39
post #31

Sigh. Mark Zuckerberg is not the fellow to listen to if you want to build the future. He's only managed to re-invent the past. AOL, MySpace, FriendFeed, and probably a few others I'm forgetting. edit: Folks are getting a bit philosophical so I'll clarify. There are better models to look up to if you want to invent the future: Bret Victor, Elon Musk, Alan Kay, Richard Feynman, etc. Each of those people did invent the…

Sigh, you've overlooked the fact that he built a hugely profitable business so now he can now throw money into "building the future". AI, VR, etc. Google was probably the 20th search engine. They make most of their money selling ads. Microsoft just rebuilt CP/M and bought many of their big apps. It's what you do after you build a great business that matters.

Making gobs of money and making the future are orthogonal though.

Exxon makes tons of money but is likely irrelevant to the future.

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