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Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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onewaystreet wrote: post #26
Analemma_ wrote: post #17

The balls on this guy. The sheer cynical audacity of trying to market yourself as a "defender of privacy" when you serve on the board of a company so antithetical to privacy that they're under federal supervision for twenty years [1] is breathtaking. Please tell me no one on Hacker News is dumb enough to fall for this. My Google-fu is failing me on the exact link (can someone help?), but Marc Andreessen once penned s…

> antithetical to privacy I don't use their service that much so I might have missed it, did Facebook add an update that forces people to post their private data?

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Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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nikcheerla wrote: post #25
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #23

FTA: I’m glad that an arena full of Republicans stood up to applaud when I said I was proud to be gay, because gay pride shouldn’t be a partisan issue. All people deserve respect, and nobody’s sexuality should be made a public fixation. From the 2016 party platform[1] of that arena full of Republicans[2]: In Obergefell, five unelected lawyers robbed 320 million Americans of their legitimate constitutional authority t…

Why exactly do you think those two positions are necessarily in opposition? You can be proudly gay while still believing that 'marriage' is only between men and women. AFAIK this is a pretty common belief among those who are both Christian and gay.

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Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

nikcheerla wrote: post #25
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #23

FTA: I’m glad that an arena full of Republicans stood up to applaud when I said I was proud to be gay, because gay pride shouldn’t be a partisan issue. All people deserve respect, and nobody’s sexuality should be made a public fixation. From the 2016 party platform[1] of that arena full of Republicans[2]: In Obergefell, five unelected lawyers robbed 320 million Americans of their legitimate constitutional authority t…

Why exactly do you think those two positions are necessarily in opposition? You can be proudly gay while still believing that 'marriage' is only between men and women. AFAIK this is a pretty common belief among those who are both Christian and gay.

It's discriminatory and unconstitutional.

For what it's worth, I don't think the government should be involved in marriage in any way, shape, or form. States should issue civil union licenses, IRS 1040 forms should refer to one's civil partner, and medical decisions should be deferred to one's civil partner. In that model, a marriage would be a purely symbolic act between you, your partner, and whatever higher power you believe in. Not the state.

Also, out of curiosity, which of the many biblical models of marriage do you subscribe to?

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by m3rc »

dominotw wrote: post #19
Analemma_ wrote: post #17

The balls on this guy. The sheer cynical audacity of trying to market yourself as a "defender of privacy" when you serve on the board of a company so antithetical to privacy that they're under federal supervision for twenty years [1] is breathtaking. Please tell me no one on Hacker News is dumb enough to fall for this. My Google-fu is failing me on the exact link (can someone help?), but Marc Andreessen once penned s…

do you have anything to say about the content of the article or just ad hominem attacks on the author.

I don't see the OP laying out a case for the article's content, I see them mentioning how it's absurd for anyone to take the author of this article seriously on privacy issues.

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by elevensies »

Seeing Hulk Hogan force Gawker into bankruptcy has been so satisfying. After all the sanctimonious nattering after the huge iCloud celebrity nudes leak, and then all the hand-wringing while Gawker gets punished for getting waist deep in the exact same thing has been galling. But after dozens of think-pieces about the troubling implications, bankruptcy court grinds on, impervious.

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by kafkaesq »

nikcheerla wrote: post #25
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #23

FTA: I’m glad that an arena full of Republicans stood up to applaud when I said I was proud to be gay, because gay pride shouldn’t be a partisan issue. All people deserve respect, and nobody’s sexuality should be made a public fixation. From the 2016 party platform[1] of that arena full of Republicans[2]: In Obergefell, five unelected lawyers robbed 320 million Americans of their legitimate constitutional authority t…

Why exactly do you think those two positions are necessarily in opposition? You can be proudly gay while still believing that 'marriage' is only between men and women. AFAIK this is a pretty common belief among those who are both Christian and gay.

The religious mindset fosters all kinds of cognitive dissonance.

"Sure the GOP will accept us -- as long as we keep a low profile, don't call them on their open bigotry, and don't ask for too much in the way of actual rights" being just another recent manifestation.

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by shklnrj »

I am actually in favour of Peter Thiel. What Gawker did was illegal and hence it is facing this backlash by the LAW.

Many people committed suicides because of the way Gawker brought their private life in public. http://www.vox.com/2015/7/17/8992155/gawker-outing-gay-peopl...

As far as he being the investor in Facebook which uses your data to advertise to you - You actually agree to Facebook's terms when you sign up for it! In case of Gawker, it was someone who was feeding on destroying the private life of people in order to sell ads.

* Whether this sets a precedent or not - That is another question and can be resolved in future. That does not mean we should support a publication which is just gossiping about the private life of a person.

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by kirrent »

Analemma_ wrote: post #17

The balls on this guy. The sheer cynical audacity of trying to market yourself as a "defender of privacy" when you serve on the board of a company so antithetical to privacy that they're under federal supervision for twenty years [1] is breathtaking. Please tell me no one on Hacker News is dumb enough to fall for this. My Google-fu is failing me on the exact link (can someone help?), but Marc Andreessen once penned s…

I don't particularly disagree with anything you said but even a privacy intruding clock can be right twice a day. The article is merely a pretty conventional discussion of the public interest vs what the public is interested in and what we should expect from journalism. Everything he says is pretty darn standard stuff which has been written a thousand times before, VC or no VC.

Re: Peter Thiel: The Online Privacy Debate Won’t End With Gawker

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

kafkaesq wrote: post #36
nikcheerla wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why exactly do you think those two positions are necessarily in opposition? You can be proudly gay while still believing that 'marriage' is only between men and women. AFAIK this is a pretty common belief among those who are both Christian and gay.

The religious mindset fosters all kinds of cognitive dissonance. "Sure the GOP will accept us -- as long as we keep a low profile, don't call them on their open bigotry, and don't ask for too much in the way of actual rights" being just another recent manifestation.

Dan Savage has written quite regularly about Log Cabin Republicans. Here's a great, recent piece: http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/07/18/24357871/the-utte...
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