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E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by ekianjo »

douche wrote: post #30
ekianjo wrote: post #25

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How about that ? https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/d... Even better maybe, the Onyx Boox Max at 13.3 inches: http://www.banggood.com/ONYX-BOOX-Max-13_3-Inch-1G16G-Flexib...

The Kindle DX would be nice, but I'm a little wary of buying used consumer electronics. I looked at the Boox Max and it looks awesome, but it's a little rich for my blood right now. The regular Kindle costs $80, 10" Fire tablets are selling for $180, so nearly $800 seems like a lot.

Sony has a 13 inches model as well that goes for 599 dollars. A bit cheaper but they appear to get rid of it, so you might need to pick one soon if you are interested...

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by dman »

dagw wrote: post #28
douche wrote: post #22

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I desperately want a 10-12" e-ink ebook reader. Trying to read textbooks or programming tomes on a standard size Kindle is too painful. Not a whole lot of options out there though.

Sony has one which seems really nice (based on the 2 minutes I played with it once): https://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-DPTS1/ Unfortunately it is a bit limited (only supports PDF's out of the box) in what it can do and much too expensive.

It is the best electronic device I have owned in years. Has a well defined feature set and hits that feature set spot on. Unlike most other devices, it does not try to lock you into any kind of ecosystem. Setup a webdav server, throw your pdfs on it and this device will automatically sync and pick up new pdfs you add to your server. Plus you can use a memory card.

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by cmod »

A good case where design really does matter. These things stick out like sore thumbs. Good museum labels blend. They certainly don't look like old thermostats.

I can't imagine most museum curators would dare to put these on their walls.

And anyway — why constrain all information to a single display. If the goal is to get more information about a painting to a view, there are more solutions both more efficient and kinder to the patrons.

This feels like a case where a simple (dare I say it?!) QR code would have much longer, smarter legs.

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Post by overcast »

douche wrote: post #22
TeMPOraL wrote: post #3

Here's a link to the hardware: https://www.visionect.com/technology#hardware Details of the controller board: https://docs.visionect.com/VisionectPandaDS.html And the thing that was interesting for me the most, the screens they use: https://docs.visionect.com/ElectronicPaperDisplays.html Now why the screens were most interesting for me? Because "e-paper" name has in the past been used not just for e-ink-like displays…

I desperately want a 10-12" e-ink ebook reader. Trying to read textbooks or programming tomes on a standard size Kindle is too painful. Not a whole lot of options out there though.

I've been saying this since eBook readers came out. Sure the current kindle is convenient for travel, but for any serious reading, I want a larger one. It's why I still purchase larger hardcover books, and the kindle is only for convenience/travel.

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Post by y04nn »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #13
karyon wrote: post #10

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In case the last question was serious (i honestly don't know): You wouldn't want that except for daily work (except maybe for reading longer texts), at least not with current e-ink technology. Even with proper colors, adding several 100ms of latency to everything you do at the computer slows you down while typing, makes scrolling ugly etc. Not to think of videos or games...

It is serious. I'd like that for my text editor. And for most of my Internet browsing (which consists of reading text). It doesn't even need to be full-colour, I'd live with grayscale for now. Refresh rates are better nowadays, especially if you refresh only parts of the screen - which would be the case for text editing. Sure it won't be as fluid as 1080p @ 120Hz, but I'd like it anyway.

On OSX, in the accessibility settings you can make your display greyscale, change the contrast and invert colors.

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by goldenkey »

ciroduran wrote: post #14
ehmuidifici wrote: post #7

Its funny how we link 'museum' with 'outdated things'. When I first saw that title I just thought that would be something like e-paper being obsolete.

Museums are certainly in need of redefining their purpose, but to call them 'outdated' is a bit of a stretch, I'm afraid. I would recommend anyone interested in the role of museums in today's society to read Art Power ( https://www.amazon.com/Art-Power-Boris-Groys/dp/0262072920 )

Theres no need to link to Amazon when recommending a book. Amazon has been quite hostile to us devs lately in terms of culture/employment. I think the book and author name plaintext is enough.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12260512

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by david-given »

david-given wrote: post #16
karyon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case the last question was serious (i honestly don't know): You wouldn't want that except for daily work (except maybe for reading longer texts), at least not with current e-ink technology. Even with proper colors, adding several 100ms of latency to everything you do at the computer slows you down while typing, makes scrolling ugly etc. Not to think of videos or games...

You can get refresh on a Kindle screen down to under 100ms if you want plain black and white. You only get the ludicrous refresh times if you want greyscale --- I believe they do some kind of dithering over time to achieve that. Back in the old days I had a Hercules monitor with slow phosphor. I've tried to find some figures on the response rate, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a similar speed to the eink scree…

Update: here's a 32" epaper monitor!

https://www.visionect.com/development_kits

Greyscale: $3600. Colour: $4700. There's a 13" model at a mere $999, but who wants that?

Slightly more realistically, there's the Dasung Paperlike:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9DbdaPQyLY

Re: E-paper is making it's way into museums

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Post by epaulson »

ekianjo wrote: post #25
douche wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I desperately want a 10-12" e-ink ebook reader. Trying to read textbooks or programming tomes on a standard size Kindle is too painful. Not a whole lot of options out there though.

How about that ? https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wireless-Reader-3G-Global/d... Even better maybe, the Onyx Boox Max at 13.3 inches: http://www.banggood.com/ONYX-BOOX-Max-13_3-Inch-1G16G-Flexib...

Are there any good hackable e-ink tablets? I love the feel of my Nook but the software is terrible. I want to be able to wirelessly sync content from my own document management system without much fuss.

I periodically poke around on Alibaba looking for basic, blank e-ink readers but haven't seen much.

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