This looks really bad from the perspective of trusting the currency to actually retain its value. What if you end up on the wrong fork, and that thousands of dollars in Ethereum you accepted to send out physical goods ends up being worthless? What's the point in saving the DAO if it kills the whole purpose behind the currency?
As I understand it they only activate the fork if enough miners vote for it. If >50% of hashpower doesn't fork, then nobody forks. If >50% of hashpower forks, then that's known ahead of time since the vote was carried out in public by that same hashpower.
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Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understand it they only activate the fork if enough miners vote for it. If >50% of hashpower doesn't fork, then nobody forks. If >50% of hashpower forks, then that's known ahead of time since the vote was carried out in public by that same hashpower.
That's how the softfork worked before it got scrapped. A hardfork literally splits the network in in two, it's basically like creating a new coin shares the previous history.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#33It's a good thing that smart contracts have allowed us freedom from human error and bias.... I guess we can just call them "contracts." now.
Intersting idea. Perhaps we should have a system of governance of the "contracts" whereby we elect "representatives" who appoint "judges".
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how the softfork worked before it got scrapped. A hardfork literally splits the network in in two, it's basically like creating a new coin shares the previous history.
How does the fact that it was a hardfork invalidate either of the statements above? It's known ahead of time, and if not enough people adopt it then it doesn't get activated at all.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how the softfork worked before it got scrapped. A hardfork literally splits the network in in two, it's basically like creating a new coin shares the previous history.
How does the fact that it was a hardfork invalidate either of the statements above? It's known ahead of time, and if not enough people adopt it then it doesn't get activated at all.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's how the softfork worked before it got scrapped. A hardfork literally splits the network in in two, it's basically like creating a new coin shares the previous history.
How does the fact that it was a hardfork invalidate either of the statements above? It's known ahead of time, and if not enough people adopt it then it doesn't get activated at all.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does the fact that it was a hardfork invalidate either of the statements above? It's known ahead of time, and if not enough people adopt it then it doesn't get activated at all.
This is also an existing problem in every cryptocurrency. Just because bitcoin hasn't done any controversial forks yet doesn't mean it will never happen.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#38So, uh, in layman's terms, where's the money now?
On both sides of the fork. The bet is that one side would die out, and most of the exchanges agreed that they would stop operations until a clear winning fork is determined.
Re: Ethereum Wallet and Mist Beta with Hard Fork choice
#39I was a hardcore Ethereum fanboy, but this fork completely turned me off.
Too many of the Ethereum devs had way too much of their currency tied up in the DAO. It's a classic conflict of interest. Don't forget that Ethereum had a significant premine as well (which is very shady in its own right), so the early devs and adopters have a lot of ETH to throw around.
Do you have any evidence of that? I know about the address that was found in both the Foundation wallet and as a DAO holder but I haven't seen any other developer shown to be DAO holders. Stephan Taul would obviously be a big DAO holder as one of the people behind it but he's not with the Ethereum Foundation anymore (having left to work on Slock.it and The DAO).
Even if they have a conflict of interest they seem to be going out of their way to let the community decide what to do.