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Pinboard Turns Seven

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Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by idlewords »

buro9 wrote: post #24
polpo wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is certainly willing to divulge the details. He's posted his expenses yearly. Here are 2015's: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15RdDg3XyOGzW1T0Wjw9M...

Mine looks much the same, I pay GBP 6,900 per year to run 300 forums serving 200k users per month and over 8m page views per month. Also in my costs are email (transactional via Mailgun, marketing via MailJet), DMARCian, AWS S3 for avatars and attachments, SSL (still paying for a wildcard, perhaps let's encrypt next time round), Google Apps for email to run the business. It's realistic to spend around USD 10k per yea…

Thanks for sharing that!

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Post by [deleted] »

amix wrote: post #28

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe. Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product. I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

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Post by edp »

l0b0 wrote: post #27

Pinboard user since 2012 here, after importing about 12k bookmarks from Delicious (17k now). It's the best kind of low tech service: It's all about bookmarking, not ads or gimmicks. The UI loading time seems O(1) rather than Delicious' O(n). The only problem now is that there doesn't seem to be a working add-on for Firefox on Android. Does anyone know of one?

I'm using firefox on android too but I use PinDroid to create new bookmarks and access existing ones. It's well integrated in firefox and can be used with any other application through the android "share" function.

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Post by koevet »

I have been using Pinboard for some years now. Great, rock solid service. I currently keep ~2K bookmarks on Pinboard (http://pinboard.in/u:koevet) but I wonder if my usage pattern makes actual sense for me to keep on using it.

I mainly use Pinboard as a kitchen sink for articles and completely random stuff I stumble across. You can actually tell from my totally schizophrenic tag cloud. At some point I was using a custom made script that bookmarks Hacker News story I'd +. So now I have hundreds of "hackernews" tagged bookmarks which I NEVER access.

I rarely go to Pinboard to retrieve a bookmark, maybe 10 times a year. It's faster to Google and for the stuff I really need to go back to I have local bookmarks.

I'm also a heavy RSS consumer: for sites for which I like to be updated of new content, I use my self-hosted RSS reader, no need to use bookmarks.

I guess I will keep on storing away links, the service is cheap anyway.

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Post by samastur »

amix wrote: post #28

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe. Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product. I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

I feel like I am missing something. You were fine with service and value that it provided until you found out that Maciej is not busy enough running it?

Why would you care if you get more value than you pay. Or alternatively, why would you pay for it if it didn't?

Are you switching only because of the above reason or is there something missing that you'd like to find elsewhere?

I am, too, a long term Pinboard customer. I don't care if Maciej does no work whatsoever in an average year as long as Pinboard works or is fixed quickly when it doesn't. I may be biased, because my wife and I both enjoy his writing and talks a lot so it "feels" like we are to an extent sponsoring that too.

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Post by jalami »

amix wrote: post #28

As a long term Pinboard customer I dislike this "I am doing nothing and I am proud of it" mentality and I will unsubscribe. Pinboard has been the same for years and I feel little attachment to the product. I am unsure what to switch to, but Pinterest looks like an interesing and innovative solution.

Pinboard provides a simple service with well defined boundaries that you're aware of when signing up. Iterating indefinitely isn't always the solution, especially when your intention is to keep your problem space small, your project easily maintainable and the tools you provide relatively sharp. Every feature you add you have to either maintain or kill off to the detriment of your users. I'm not saying Pinboard couldn't use a little polish, but I like the principled keep it stupid simple stance: Links aren't hard, don't overdo it.

If Pinterest looks interesting, then yeah you probably really hate Pinboard. I think it's a feature that I don't hit those annoying nag walls, get inundated with ads and tracking, load hundreds of images on a page, and require cookies and lots of JS to just browse feeds. Different strokes for different folks.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by jalami »

edp wrote: post #33
l0b0 wrote: post #27

Pinboard user since 2012 here, after importing about 12k bookmarks from Delicious (17k now). It's the best kind of low tech service: It's all about bookmarking, not ads or gimmicks. The UI loading time seems O(1) rather than Delicious' O(n). The only problem now is that there doesn't seem to be a working add-on for Firefox on Android. Does anyone know of one?

I'm using firefox on android too but I use PinDroid to create new bookmarks and access existing ones. It's well integrated in firefox and can be used with any other application through the android "share" function.

Wow neat, thanks for this. I was just looking for extensions for some reason. It's on F-droid as well if that's preferred. Pretty slick.

Source: https://github.com/maxpower47/PinDroid

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by stared »

I am a very happy user of Pinboard. And thanks for posting stats! One things which looks worrying is the stagnation of the number of users. By a common social media wisdom, it's a very bad sign... but some time ago I did analyze MathOverflow community (a research-level mathematics Stack Overflow) and they saturated in the first months (sic!) http://meta.mathoverflow.net/questions/2182/is-mathoverflow-..., yet it is a vibrant community.

Also, idlewords, as you are here: any plan to make search listing more items (50? 100?). It's a function I use a lot and sometimes this pagination makes it slower to find an old link.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by aryamaan »

l0b0 wrote: post #27

Pinboard user since 2012 here, after importing about 12k bookmarks from Delicious (17k now). It's the best kind of low tech service: It's all about bookmarking, not ads or gimmicks. The UI loading time seems O(1) rather than Delicious' O(n). The only problem now is that there doesn't seem to be a working add-on for Firefox on Android. Does anyone know of one?

How do you use pinboard? I use bookmarklet and it seems to take 2-3 seconds to load with predicted tags.

Re: Pinboard Turns Seven

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Post by dredmorbius »

idlewords wrote: post #5
striking wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a joke. https://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-i... I'm glad there are people who tell jokes, honestly.

This site is a place for serious discussion!

Sometimes people hack contests.
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