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Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by robmccoll »

Just what I've always wanted from a terminal - things I can only do with a GUI and mouse. /sarcasm

This product seems to fundamentally misunderstand people that use terminals. Perhaps it would do better to instead become more of a thing that puts quick GUI wrappers around terminal commands and tries to parse the output and present it in a pretty GUI way for people who'd prefer not to get their hands dirty? Otherwise, this seems like what aliases and functions in my bashrc are for.

Either way, why is there a group of people that seems to think we desperately need to take applications that we are already running natively, wrap them in HTML/CSS/JS, throw them inside of a webview, embed that webview into a separate Chromium instance, and string it all together using a tool and execution environment designed to take a client-side single threaded web scripting language and use it for making servers? (Mugatu: I feel like I'm taking crazy pills - does nobody see this?!?)

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by nameless912 »

themartorana wrote: post #29
nameless912 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing inherently wrong with wanting to make money for your work. The problem, honestly, is that a good terminal is a solved problem (c.f. urxvt, which is perfect in every way). Charging people for one would be like charging people for a vim clone. Why charge for an inferior product when someone's already created perfection? ;) Second of all, learning shell scripting is an almost ridiculously important skill…

It's not that simple. The shell for you and me is muscle memory. For someone who takes a "boot camp" and then doesn't use what they've learned for 3 weeks, the boot camp was a waste of time. Haven't you ever come back to a piece of code from a month ago and had to reacquaint yourself with it? (I know I can't be unique in that... ;) ) We cram an awful lot into our heads as devs, there's no room for things we barely us…

Here's what you do: in the middle of the night, sneak into all of your devs' offices and fuck with their xorg.conf's. Make them drop to command line only for a couple weeks (because we all know it takes at least that long to diagnose an xorg.conf....) and they'll learn. Oh they'll learn ;)

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by guessmyname »

spriggan3 wrote: post #30

Why is the download 100MB big ? Isn't it a bit heavy for a simple terminal ?

Because it bundles Electron [1] which weighs (for version 1.2.6) around ~40MB, if you also include the size of the 720 NPM packages [2] that this application uses then you get the same size that you are complaining about. However, if you also extract the content of the archive you will notice that it actually weighs ~620MB LOL.

[1] https://github.com/electron/electron/releases/tag/v1.2.6

[2] http://pastebin.com/raw/VhnuuDdX

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

#34

Post by skykooler »

nameless912 wrote: post #32
themartorana wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that simple. The shell for you and me is muscle memory. For someone who takes a "boot camp" and then doesn't use what they've learned for 3 weeks, the boot camp was a waste of time. Haven't you ever come back to a piece of code from a month ago and had to reacquaint yourself with it? (I know I can't be unique in that... ;) ) We cram an awful lot into our heads as devs, there's no room for things we barely us…

Here's what you do: in the middle of the night, sneak into all of your devs' offices and fuck with their xorg.conf's. Make them drop to command line only for a couple weeks (because we all know it takes at least that long to diagnose an xorg.conf....) and they'll learn. Oh they'll learn ;)

or, they'll just reinstall the OS, if they have decent backups.

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by knodi »

guessmyname wrote: post #14
dc2 wrote: post #9

This appears superficial, and that this is paid as well with no (visible) published open source turns me off. The mistakes in the GIF communicate that this was a slapped-together product. Additionally, requiring mouse clicks for a visual replacement of the alias command with a few extra bells and whistles is not the greatest appeal to a community of developers. I hope that the fact that this was written in Go does no…

Don't be fooled by the name, this application is not written in Go, that is just a random word that they chose for the name. The application was written in HTML and bundled with a webview powered by CEF (probably Electron). Just download the application and execute `strings goterminal | grep chromium` and you will see what I am talking about; again, this has 0% Go code. EDIT: Here is the list of 720 NPM packages used…

720 npm packages..........................................

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

#37

Post by andrepd »

guessmyname wrote: post #19
benbenolson wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with each and every one of your comments; in addition, I would like to know how this project was created: what language it was made in, why the author found it necessary to create it, etc.

> what language it was made in HTML + JavaScript + Electron Just download that archive, extract its content, and you will find the "goterminal" script that is basically an ASAR archive [1] with a copy of CEF [2] as the webview for the web application that they (for some unknown reason) decided to create. [1] https://github.com/electron/asar [2] https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef

I'm cringing.

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by andrepd »

guessmyname wrote: post #19
benbenolson wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with each and every one of your comments; in addition, I would like to know how this project was created: what language it was made in, why the author found it necessary to create it, etc.

> what language it was made in HTML + JavaScript + Electron Just download that archive, extract its content, and you will find the "goterminal" script that is basically an ASAR archive [1] with a copy of CEF [2] as the webview for the web application that they (for some unknown reason) decided to create. [1] https://github.com/electron/asar [2] https://bitbucket.org/chromiumembedded/cef

I'm cringing at that entire paragraph.

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by icholy »

nameless912 wrote: post #32
themartorana wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that simple. The shell for you and me is muscle memory. For someone who takes a "boot camp" and then doesn't use what they've learned for 3 weeks, the boot camp was a waste of time. Haven't you ever come back to a piece of code from a month ago and had to reacquaint yourself with it? (I know I can't be unique in that... ;) ) We cram an awful lot into our heads as devs, there's no room for things we barely us…

Here's what you do: in the middle of the night, sneak into all of your devs' offices and fuck with their xorg.conf's. Make them drop to command line only for a couple weeks (because we all know it takes at least that long to diagnose an xorg.conf....) and they'll learn. Oh they'll learn ;)

you're a terrible person

Re: Go Terminal_ Elegant and Efficient Linux Terminal

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Post by chii »

nameless912 wrote: post #32
themartorana wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not that simple. The shell for you and me is muscle memory. For someone who takes a "boot camp" and then doesn't use what they've learned for 3 weeks, the boot camp was a waste of time. Haven't you ever come back to a piece of code from a month ago and had to reacquaint yourself with it? (I know I can't be unique in that... ;) ) We cram an awful lot into our heads as devs, there's no room for things we barely us…

Here's what you do: in the middle of the night, sneak into all of your devs' offices and fuck with their xorg.conf's. Make them drop to command line only for a couple weeks (because we all know it takes at least that long to diagnose an xorg.conf....) and they'll learn. Oh they'll learn ;)

That's like saying you drop a modern human in the middle of the jungle, and tell em to survive for a week. I'm sure they'll "learn", or die trying but is that really a good way to do it?!
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