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C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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Has anyone tried this yet? It seems more than 50% cheaper than Backblaze B2 with a very similar setup.

Try it, it's free for the moment :)

You have to open an account with verified bank details first though, right?

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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Does anyone know about a bare metal provider like Scaleway / Online.net in the US? I have no problem with the EU, other than the speed of light.

Digital Ocean is arguably kind of close. SoftLayer and Rackspace are the biggest players in this space, but unlike Scaleway there's no way to start at $10/month. Why do you feel like you need bare metal though? Disclosure: I work on Compute Engine, and we don't offer bare metal (so of course I'm trying to sell you on virtualized offerings).

I'm not really looking for someone like Rackspace. I want someone that lets me easily spin up capacity on demand at pretty low cost.

I love compute engine. I run a bunch of nodes on it, but unfortunately it doesn't do nested virtualization. I specifically want to run some virtual box workloads and some other stuff that needs light weight virtualization.

I've found a couple virtual server providers that offer nested Virtualization, but not entirely sure how it works. They were also crazy expensive.

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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"I can't imagine an S3/GCS bucket restriction like that, so I'm curious how customers will be expected to work around it." Amazon S3 has a 5TB object size limit and only 5GB (!) can be uploaded in a single PUT[1]. Different limits, but still something people have to work around. An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? Man, that would be awesome.…

> An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? rsync.net advertises > a ZFS filesystem, accessible with any SSH/SFTP tool, running on a UNIX system. You're paying for that though, rsync.net starts at 8c/GB/month (for 10+TB), the smallest offering (under 1TB) is 20c/GB/month), by comparison S3 is 2.75c to 3c/GB/month in standard storage (and 1.25c/GB/…

I'd be really curious to know why rsync.net is so expensive. Is there something inherently costly about scaling a ZFS based filesystem like this?

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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> An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? rsync.net advertises > a ZFS filesystem, accessible with any SSH/SFTP tool, running on a UNIX system. You're paying for that though, rsync.net starts at 8c/GB/month (for 10+TB), the smallest offering (under 1TB) is 20c/GB/month), by comparison S3 is 2.75c to 3c/GB/month in standard storage (and 1.25c/GB/…

I'd be really curious to know why rsync.net is so expensive. Is there something inherently costly about scaling a ZFS based filesystem like this?

I expect part of it is a difference in the domains they charge for: rsync.net charges for storage but not transfers.

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I can't imagine an S3/GCS bucket restriction like that, so I'm curious how customers will be expected to work around it." Amazon S3 has a 5TB object size limit and only 5GB (!) can be uploaded in a single PUT[1]. Different limits, but still something people have to work around. An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? Man, that would be awesome.…

> An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? rsync.net advertises > a ZFS filesystem, accessible with any SSH/SFTP tool, running on a UNIX system. You're paying for that though, rsync.net starts at 8c/GB/month (for 10+TB), the smallest offering (under 1TB) is 20c/GB/month), by comparison S3 is 2.75c to 3c/GB/month in standard storage (and 1.25c/GB/…

"You're paying for that though, rsync.net starts at 8c/GB/month (for 10+TB), the smallest offering (under 1TB) is 20c/GB/month), by comparison S3 is 2.75c to 3c/GB/month in standard storage (and 1.25c/GB/month for IA)"

Actually, the ZFS send/recv capable accounts start at 6 cents and go down from there. There's a bit of a cost reduction since we don't create and maintain snapshots for you - you take care of that yourself, with your own zpool at rsync.net.

Email us. We'll talk.

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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> An actual filesystem on ZFS makes all of these limits disappear. Does anyone offer cloud storage based on that ? rsync.net advertises > a ZFS filesystem, accessible with any SSH/SFTP tool, running on a UNIX system. You're paying for that though, rsync.net starts at 8c/GB/month (for 10+TB), the smallest offering (under 1TB) is 20c/GB/month), by comparison S3 is 2.75c to 3c/GB/month in standard storage (and 1.25c/GB/…

I'd be really curious to know why rsync.net is so expensive. Is there something inherently costly about scaling a ZFS based filesystem like this?

We offer unlimited technical support and integration engineering for even the smallest customers.

You can emergency page us on Christmas day.

We'll set up "pull" jobs on our end to pull the backups from you.

These things are very valuable to some people ...

Re: C14, the Secure Cold Storage Platform, for Free During the Summer

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I'd be really curious to know why rsync.net is so expensive. Is there something inherently costly about scaling a ZFS based filesystem like this?

We offer unlimited technical support and integration engineering for even the smallest customers. You can emergency page us on Christmas day. We'll set up "pull" jobs on our end to pull the backups from you. These things are very valuable to some people ...

I can definitely see the value in those things but I think there's also a place for "dumb" storage. Some people want that great support, some people don't need it.

I'm in the latter category and I'd rather have the choice to pay for it than be forced into it, which is why despite loving the trial I had with you guys, I couldn't justify continuing.

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