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Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by cs2818 »

tiffanyh wrote: post #12

Vultr.com seems to be the new guys coming after Linode. Does any [Linode users] have any experience with them? For a company so new they have a surprisingly amount of more features than Linode (eg BSD support, more data centers, dedicated instances, etc) Note: I'm no way affiliated with either company. Edit: adding clarity and intent. My edit is in brackets. I'm no shill :)

I've been running one of their dedicated instance plans (2 CPU / 8GB RAM) for nearly a year now as my play environment.

Overall I've been happy with it, the instance performs up to spec and has had only one downtime event over the year (was down for just over an hour).

Though I don't spend a ton of time using their interface or APIs, it does seem that they are continuously improving them and delivering helpful features.

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by Veratyr »

cpqq wrote: post #30

Sounds like a shill. RamNode consistently beats out Vultr on LowEndTalk. I remember the first days of Vultr when everyone signed up and saw other VMs and other people's billing information. RamNode has a great infrastructure, while most of Vultr's locations are single-homed. I'd check LowEndTalk and other sites, and ask Vultr about their disk RAID before choosing due to comments like this.

I assure you, I'm no shill. Like I said, RamNode does very well in benchmarks.

My problem with them is that after being hacked, exposing my personal information, they refused to remove it, citing nebulous "legal reasons" compelling them to retain it (which similar hosts had no issues with).

Frankly I haven't had another exchange with their support, so I can't comment on their service beyond good benchmarks, terrible privacy/security (they're still on SolusVM as far as I know).

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by arrty88 »

tiffanyh wrote: post #12

Vultr.com seems to be the new guys coming after Linode. Does any [Linode users] have any experience with them? For a company so new they have a surprisingly amount of more features than Linode (eg BSD support, more data centers, dedicated instances, etc) Note: I'm no way affiliated with either company. Edit: adding clarity and intent. My edit is in brackets. I'm no shill :)

wow they have block storage!

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by PeCaN »

tiffanyh wrote: post #12

Vultr.com seems to be the new guys coming after Linode. Does any [Linode users] have any experience with them? For a company so new they have a surprisingly amount of more features than Linode (eg BSD support, more data centers, dedicated instances, etc) Note: I'm no way affiliated with either company. Edit: adding clarity and intent. My edit is in brackets. I'm no shill :)

I'm in a rather good situation to answer this. I have a Vultr VPS and a Linode VPS. Both are on $10/month plans.

Linode I use as an rsync server, fossil server, and for IRC. It's running Arch Linux. I would like to run FreeBSD on it, but I didn't know you could when I got it. The Vultr one is a Postgres server running on DragonFlyBSD that I use as a database for various hobby projects. I experiment with various distributed computing projects with the two of them.

I'm very happy with both of them. I'd like to unify on one for ease of payment and maintenance, but I can't decide which. :(

Linode pros:

- Recently the $10/mo plan went from 1GB RAM to 2GB! EDIT: So apparently I should've read the link… that was what this is about. Thanks for the extra RAM!

- 4GB extra disk space (20GB vs 24GB).

- I like their management panel better.

- liXXX-YY.members.linode.com is an alias for your instance. It's much easier to remember than my Vultr IP.

Linode cons:

- I'm worried about security.

- Installing OSes other than the available images is hard.

Vultr pros:

- Custom ISOs are nice for those of us who vastly prefer BSD servers.

- So far no security breaches?

- May be slightly faster, but it's hard to say given the OS difference. I suspect it's just DragonFlyBSD being DragonFlyBSD.

Vultr cons:

- Web management is mediocre; Linode's is better designed and shows me more information.

- Young, who knows what their security is actually like.

- A little more expensive for what you get. I don't mind much though.

If any Linode people are reading this, I think I would settle on Linode _IF_ I can get some assurance about security practices. It's a nice service. I like you. It would be extra nice if you roll out some custom ISO thing eventually.

EDIT: Obligatory "not affiliated with either company". Just a dude that wants to host some place for his fossil repos, rsync, and Postgres server. One of these days I'll just maintain my own server on a Free platform (not Intel, not x86_64) and not use any VPS provider.

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by brobinson »

cpqq wrote: post #26

Yes. Avoid. Keep snapshots if you have servers with them. All I can say. Ask about their data redundancy, and if servers have RAID. You will not get any clear answer for a reason. Oh, she praised them 49 days ago, she's a shill as well : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11588937

I have multiple posts in my history praising Vultr, but I'm not a shill and I don't even currently use them. I just had a really good experience with them and their support team early last year.

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by panamafrank »

gist wrote: post #24
fweespeech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm gun-shy of Linode's many security issues, but hopefully this further drives down RAM prices of competitors. I'd love a $10 2G DigitalOcean instance. To be fair, unless you are running critical infrastructure and/or processing things involving money...Linode's quality of security is adequate. (i.e. For hobbyists and small businesses that don't touch take payments but rely on ad revenue ) Security is pretty terri…

> unless you colocate your own stuff in a locked cage How much is a locked cage really needed? To me the risks are really someone messing with your cables and taking you off line, or accidentally pulling a power plug, which is QOS really. Not security. Can't remember when I heard of someone carting off a server or plugging in a cable to the console port (once they have gotten even into the racks and are on cameras) a…

PCI compliance i think, also merchants wouldn't touch you with a barge pole if you don't have dedicated hardware... so no aws/gce.

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by LinuxBender »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #8

[Disclaimer: Linode dev here] I see a few people^W^Weveryone here talking about security. If you didn't read the whole blog post, you might not have noticed the new Linode manager that we're working on being mentioned. Check it out, it's open source: https://github.com/Linode/manager If you haven't been present in other discussions about Linode security, one of the major factors (in my opinion) is the current manager…

I am looking forward to the updated interface and happy to see you are moving away from ColdFusion.

I have been with Linode for many years and have always been happy with the service. Thank you and thanks to the Linode staff for everything they do.

If there was one thing I would like to see come back, it would be the 1024 or 1536 nodes (1 or 1.5GB ram). I understand the overhead or scaling issues might not make it worth while for Linode, but I would be interested.

Re: Linode’s 13th Birthday

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

LinuxBender wrote: post #38
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #8

[Disclaimer: Linode dev here] I see a few people^W^Weveryone here talking about security. If you didn't read the whole blog post, you might not have noticed the new Linode manager that we're working on being mentioned. Check it out, it's open source: https://github.com/Linode/manager If you haven't been present in other discussions about Linode security, one of the major factors (in my opinion) is the current manager…

I am looking forward to the updated interface and happy to see you are moving away from ColdFusion. I have been with Linode for many years and have always been happy with the service. Thank you and thanks to the Linode staff for everything they do. If there was one thing I would like to see come back, it would be the 1024 or 1536 nodes (1 or 1.5GB ram). I understand the overhead or scaling issues might not make it wo…

My team has nothing to do with that sort of decision, so forgive me for being vague, but I believe it's on the radar. The changes done today definitely help the odds.
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