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The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

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Re: The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

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Is it just me, or does the "photo" of a diver wearing an Exosuit not really look like a real photo? https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://...

I'd agree that it probably is a real photo, but you're right. It even looks like a digital painting - not just a 3D render.

I wonder if the designers picked colors and surfaces that maximize visibility and sharpness underwater for safety reasons.

Re: The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

#32

What would the world be like if these ancient scientists and engineers persisted and their science and craft carried on and developed further? Instead, the period that followed gave rise to belief systems that still give us problems today. How very sad.

Do we know why such expertise was lost in the first place? The collapse of the Roman empire wasn't for another couple centuries.

My only question, was there only one ever? It seems implausible that it would be unique

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Is it just me, or does the "photo" of a diver wearing an Exosuit not really look like a real photo? https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://...

The company that makes the suit has a site that's worth a look: http://www.hublot.com/antikythera/

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Do we know why such expertise was lost in the first place? The collapse of the Roman empire wasn't for another couple centuries.

Was it lost? Or did those who could build such a thing simply did not think it was worth doing so? The astronomy knowledge and the mechanical theory needed to make the Antikythera mechanism were well known in ancient times, and I don't think those were ever lost. The mystery of the Antikythera mechanism is how it was actually built. But do we know how long it took to build? If it was built in a short time frame, then…

Using a file to cut gears doesn't take a lifetime, they even did this in one of the documentaries about the subject.

https://youtu.be/5mIGJzqrGnc?t=36m9s

Re: The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

#36

There's a great BBC documentary on this from a couple of years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q124C7W0WYA

Thank you for that link! I saw it a while ago and didn't realize it was on youtube.

slightly offtopic: Does anyone else think that unless a History based TV Documentary is made by the BBC (or at least a presenter with an english accent) it will almost devoid of credibility?

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Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much. "He was The Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University from 1960 until his death in 1983. He was the first to record a complete lecture series on History of Science which could serve as a foundati…

"Logarithmic" is practically a constant. Do you mean "exponential" instead? (as in "double in X years")

Re: The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

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I'm keeping my hopes up that they formed a secret society and are guiding the world with a steady hand towards an enlightened future. (Then I read the news and cry in my corn flakes, of course.)

Well, maybe the news is just there to steer us towards a new and more glorious dawn. Due to the laws of thermodynamics I have little belief left for a beneficent (let alone malignant) secret society of any stripe. But I could be wrong. There are more things in heaven and earth and all that.

Why would the laws of thermodynamics apply to a secret society?

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It looks like the color saturation was maxed out and some of the blues and reds started clipping in the saturation range.

You lose a lot of the longer wavelength colors underwater, they probably adjusted the levels to compensate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_photography#Lightin...

Probably. It also looks like some median filtering or a selective blur was applied to remove dirt/debris/bubbles, which tends to give things a painted look.

Re: The Antikythera mechanism is still revealing its secrets

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Derek de Solla Price is an interesting character. 50+ years ago while stacking and organizing scientific journals by year, he noticed the stacks grew in height in a logarithmic curve. From there, so much. "He was The Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University from 1960 until his death in 1983. He was the first to record a complete lecture series on History of Science which could serve as a foundati…

"Logarithmic" is practically a constant. Do you mean "exponential" instead? (as in "double in X years")

A visual log curve, not log growth. Log curve is a reflection of an exponential curve. He stacked the journals on the floor.
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