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The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

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Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

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For other people confused about the meaning of BP in this context, it means Benjamin Pierce Fellow. It appears this talk was given in the context of the Benjamin Pierce Centennial Conference: http://www.math.harvard.edu/conferences/bp/

Yes, exactly. And I haven't given the talk yet! I'm giving it 2 hours from right now, and I'm pretty nervous.

Good luck, William. You have my full support! Thank you for all the great work on Sage and associated tools!

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#32
Setting up a company can help because it will let other researchers support the project by buying the software on research grants. A grant can also pay for consultant-style improvements to software. It doesn't really matter if the software is also being given away for free. The important thing is to have an invoice to give to the university financial services staff.

I'd prefer it if the granting agencies supported this sort of software infrastructure directly, but, lacking that, a company is a way to hire people to tackle some of the weaknesses of Sage, whether they be in its core functionality or its UI.

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Stein explains in the slides: because he couldn't sustainably pay people to work with him on SAGE, and there is only so much you can do alone.

But you can be a professor and also start a company simultaneously

But you can't be a professor and work full-time on another project, which is what he wants to do.

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#34
Does make sense - academia is about theory, businesses are part of implementing end user solutions. most of academia runs on a tech stack delivered by commercial entities anyway. Building products is not as much about creativity as delivering a fixed product with a service plan and support chain in addition to product development. Companies have various operations to create full fledged products - academia can supply only the r&d part. And this is a good divisionoflabour, IMO.

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

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This story reminds me of Prof. Tim Davis of Texas A&M, formerly Florida, who I heard had a hard time getting tenure, after making the software and mathematical world a much better place. He (and his group) developed CHOLMOD and UMFPACK and other sparse solvers used everywhere. Basically, when you type A/b in Matlab, it calls his code. It was an incredibly challenging task going from sort-of/kind-of being able to solv…

Duff (who was Davis's post-doc advisor IIRC) also deserves credit for MA57, which is used in MATLAB's sparse symmetric indefinite solvers [1]. And the giant BLAS and LAPACK crew (as well as the previous LINPACK authors) deserve some credit for dense systems.

[1] http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/ldl.html?requestedD...

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#36

For other people confused about the meaning of BP in this context, it means Benjamin Pierce Fellow. It appears this talk was given in the context of the Benjamin Pierce Centennial Conference: http://www.math.harvard.edu/conferences/bp/

Yes, exactly. And I haven't given the talk yet! I'm giving it 2 hours from right now, and I'm pretty nervous.

You have my support as well!

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

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post #33
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you can be a professor and also start a company simultaneously

But you can't be a professor and work full-time on another project, which is what he wants to do.

He has a higher risk tolerance than me. I would work on this 80% and do the 20% required stuff as a tenured professor, but what do I know. Maybe I am overly enamored with becoming a tenured professor. If he was already spending his time as a professor working on this, I don't understand the difference. Still, all the best and good luck to him.

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#38

For other people confused about the meaning of BP in this context, it means Benjamin Pierce Fellow. It appears this talk was given in the context of the Benjamin Pierce Centennial Conference: http://www.math.harvard.edu/conferences/bp/

Yes, exactly. And I haven't given the talk yet! I'm giving it 2 hours from right now, and I'm pretty nervous.

Your company is going to be a huge success. You're clearly passionate about this software. And now you'll be driven by the need to feed yourself :)

Congratulations!

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#39

Setting up a company can help because it will let other researchers support the project by buying the software on research grants. A grant can also pay for consultant-style improvements to software. It doesn't really matter if the software is also being given away for free. The important thing is to have an invoice to give to the university financial services staff. I'd prefer it if the granting agencies supported th…

"Setting up a company can help because it will let other researchers support the project by buying the software on research grants." This is absolutely correct, and has happened many times now in the last few months (I started the company itself a year ago).

Re: The Origins of SageMath; I am leaving academia to build a company [pdf]

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. And I haven't given the talk yet! I'm giving it 2 hours from right now, and I'm pretty nervous.

I'll be there for moral support, if I'm allowed to crash!

Please come!
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