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Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by _blz2 »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #26
_blz2 wrote: post #23

What are some alternatives to google search. I think I can get away from the rest of their products in the coming few months.

DuckDuckGo is pretty fantastic all around. Bing is alright, to be honest (some of their data widgets are more comprehensive than Google's), but you will find times with Bing that you are sad with the results.

DuckDuckGo it is then. Bing is still Microsoft's product, so thats a bummer.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by JoshTriplett »

lucb1e wrote: post #4

> prohibits [participating countries] from requiring local storage of data > It prohibits discrimination against foreign Internet services As a Dutchman I can see why Google likes this.

Of the very many terrible things in these trade treaties (most notably the massive expansions of copyright and patents), this is one of the few that seems helpful. It's a step towards not having to care (as much) about national borders on the Internet. A company providing a service accessible to the entire Internet should not have to worry about jurisdictions other than their own.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by Pxtl »

lucb1e wrote: post #4

> prohibits [participating countries] from requiring local storage of data > It prohibits discrimination against foreign Internet services As a Dutchman I can see why Google likes this.

Anybody who runs a service where data must be stored in the country of the customers/participants/whatever wants this. If you do self-hosted services normally this is a huge PITA.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by stonogo »

dcgudeman wrote: post #11
typon wrote: post #6

Its always funny when people naively forget that Google, Apple, etc. are megacorps, not some startup ventures. They are the man. This endorsement doesn't surprise me one bit.

Is this a satirical comment or are you actually using the word "megacorps" seriously? Just because a company is big doesn't mean it is nefarious. You should explain why these companies are evil and how them endorsing TPP is a bad thing.

A single company's opinion on a multinational treaty should be completely irrelevant. The fact that it matters speaks poorly of our representative government, and the fact that Google is willing to use that power to attempt to influence policy decisions speaks poorly of Google's respect for citizen rule.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by PeCaN »

dcgudeman wrote: post #11
typon wrote: post #6

Its always funny when people naively forget that Google, Apple, etc. are megacorps, not some startup ventures. They are the man. This endorsement doesn't surprise me one bit.

Is this a satirical comment or are you actually using the word "megacorps" seriously? Just because a company is big doesn't mean it is nefarious. You should explain why these companies are evil and how them endorsing TPP is a bad thing.

I take "megacorps" to mean large, established companies with strong political connections. Companies that exert influence both over people's lives and governments; not necessarily malicious.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by Eleopteryx »

anonbanker wrote: post #35

if Trump wins, there will be no TPP, at least if he sticks to his campaign promises. We all accidentally get a gift if he makes it to the Oval Office.

According to https://ballotpedia.org/2016_presidential_candidates_on_the_... all of the remaining candidates oppose the TPP.

Re: Google endorses the Trans-Pacific Partnership

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Post by forrestthewoods »

davb wrote: post #21

This endorsement surprises me just because the TPP is so blatantly anti-consumer, pro-corporation. I'm under no illusion that Google's anything other massive tech-savvy advertising company, but the self-serving corporate side of the company is usually hidden behind the pretty veneer of "tech for the people". Supporting a trade agreement like the TPP (especially given the lack of transparency in the process) lacks the…

Is it anti-consumer?

Convince me. I'm open. But I also want you to include counter-arguments. I want to hear both sides to reach a conclusion.

So far most anti-TPP arguments I've read are high on rhetoric and low on substance.

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