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Yeah, OK, now think about the version Facebook (and thus law enforcement, intelligence agencies and advertisers) has access to.
Why would FB share any of this with advertisers?
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Right. That's Facebook's compromise on privacy. EPIC is suing them over even that.[1] Face.com did facial recognition on Facebook with no limits back in 2010.[2] Then Facebook bought them and killed the broad face recognition.[3] There are other face recognition companies now, but they're keeping a lower profile about how broad their database is. Except for Findface[4] in Russia. They loaded up the entire photo datab…
I tested Findface and it was unable to find my Vkontakte account, despite a copious amount of photos on my account there. It did, however, find a huge number of Russians that I would say look exactly like me. Also, strangely, a couple of Vkontakte accounts that had Agent Gibbs as profile pics. It's a pretty cool app!
I've never liked Facebook's "do you want to tag your friend" feature. It's a loaded question, like... have you stopped beating your wife? However you answer it, you've given Facebook feedback about their facial recognition. If I hit yes, I'm tagging friends who might not want to be tagged. Furthermore, I might end up in the same boat with friends tagging pictures of me! Either way, I help better Facebook's facial rec…
So, why do you still use Facebook again? FOMO > privacy?
I say this as someone who has exercised the option to avoid Facebook entirely for the past 7 years (including noscript+faceblockers for the pervasive thumbs-up buttons.
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For money.
They don’t need to share this for money. Advertisers don’t want your data, they want accurate targeting.
To be concrete, my local supermarket and Amazon have my full name, and partial purchase information (the supermarket via a loyalty card). Both have ways to contact me with promotions. You don't think they'd like to know what I like on Facebook (if I did that) or what I search on Google that might suggest purchase intent?
I think they'd love that data, the platforms just make more money by only allowing them to target with it.
Yup yup! This was the screenscraping technique we used to turn Facebook into an automatic face detector: https://arxiv.org/abs/1602.04504 It's a giant pain to screenscrape this using 'curl'. If I recall correctly, the bounding box coordinates I wanted are set as CSS properties inside inline HTML sent to the client wrapped up in a Javascript string literal as part of Javascript served to the client as the result of an…
I'd really like to read your paper. Everywhere I've found it referenced has a paywall. Is the full text freely available anywhere?
Is there a way to get the position (coordinates) of the face as well, just like it is on Facebook?
I've never liked Facebook's "do you want to tag your friend" feature. It's a loaded question, like... have you stopped beating your wife? However you answer it, you've given Facebook feedback about their facial recognition. If I hit yes, I'm tagging friends who might not want to be tagged. Furthermore, I might end up in the same boat with friends tagging pictures of me! Either way, I help better Facebook's facial rec…
That's a good point and it also brings to mind a way to fight it. This http://arxiv.org/pdf/1412.1897v4.pdf could be one way. You could generate images which are not of someone who wants to protect his privacy, but tweak them to strongly correlate to an image of that person by the neural net, whereas it could be a picture of anything you have just optimized (the images could be just noise, or another person, etc). Yo…
If I were Facebook, I'd look at the entropy of an image before attempting to classify it. Anything particularly high (noise) or low (squiggles) would be discarded before running through the classifier.
I've never liked Facebook's "do you want to tag your friend" feature. It's a loaded question, like... have you stopped beating your wife? However you answer it, you've given Facebook feedback about their facial recognition. If I hit yes, I'm tagging friends who might not want to be tagged. Furthermore, I might end up in the same boat with friends tagging pictures of me! Either way, I help better Facebook's facial rec…
So, why do you still use Facebook again? FOMO > privacy?
I'm still just as vulnerable to attack, if not more (ie: trying to host my own email service). The only difference is I'm markedly more isolated from my friends. It simply wasn't worth the trade off.
It's similar to people who get ridiculed for stockpiling guns and food in underground bunkers for the coming War-for-Independence 2.0. Sure, I could become a "digital prepper" and survive the data-pocalypse--likely at the cost of my relationships.
It's not like a "10 Cloverfield Lane" lifestyle is particularly appealing to me, either. I'll live with my friends for now, with only a mild sense of paranoia.