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Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Also, just relax and have a beer at the This Week in Startups party at SXSW.... life is too short to be so angry/upset about nothing! RSVP here www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=342222228076&ref=mf I'm not the worst guy in the world... you'll actually have a good time.

Jason, it be better served if you address the original points rather than side step them..

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Can we please stop giving Mahalo and Jason Calacanis more airtime than they deserve ? Every post like this just fuels the fire and creates more drama around the theme and in the end will benefit the spammer. There is no such thing as 'bad publicity'.

No. This isn't someone commenting on an inflammatory comment that Calacanis made in order to attract attention. It's someone outing Calacanis for shady business practices, and putting more pressure on Google to end those practices. It's part of the search engine scammer playbook to stay just close enough to the line for people like us to get exhausted hearing about it.

Calacanis shady business practices have been outed for months, plenty of google employees read HN, there really is no reason for him to still be around in the google index.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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No. This isn't someone commenting on an inflammatory comment that Calacanis made in order to attract attention. It's someone outing Calacanis for shady business practices, and putting more pressure on Google to end those practices. It's part of the search engine scammer playbook to stay just close enough to the line for people like us to get exhausted hearing about it.

Calacanis shady business practices have been outed for months , plenty of google employees read HN, there really is no reason for him to still be around in the google index.

Yup, this is the worst part, he is getting away with this even though tens of Google employees, and i'm sure including Matt Cutts, have read these articles. They do nothing about it..

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Why would they? This generates revenue for Google. There's no excuse for them not having banning them from day one, like they do every other individual trying to capitalize on the same tactics -- only the sheer capitalization and size that Jason brought to the table allowed him to get away with this at scale. Shame on Google for having double standards, IMHO.

Google has made revenue negative banning decisions in the past. They have demonstrated that they recognize that the long-term quality of their index is more important than short term profits.

Every banning is against revenue, yet Mahalo still is operational......... Google's lack of definitive action against Mahalo's outright spam is the clear example here.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Also, just relax and have a beer at the This Week in Startups party at SXSW.... life is too short to be so angry/upset about nothing! RSVP here www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=342222228076&ref=mf I'm not the worst guy in the world... you'll actually have a good time.

You forgot to sign with "peace and love". Although maybe that's because it's been ringing hollow lately... might I suggest that you also add "xoxo" to your signature? Maybe that'll win people over.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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There's no need to rely on search engines to find pages full of useful information. I do broad topical research, and I've managed to find pretty decent concentrated sources on most topics online. There are many fine specialist websites, and blogs, done by knowledgeable human beings.

It takes time to find them and organize them (I use a custom database rather than bookmarks). SE's are fine for quick, one-off searches that -aren't important- ... otherwise, human expertise is far preferable, and always will be.

Re: Mahalo's new spam is worse than old

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Companies like Google care about and have responded to populist uprisings like this in the past (especially as it relates to search quality). I imagine that's the actual goal here.

If google cared they could switch him off in 2 seconds flat. And if they're not aware by now they're asleep at the switch.

I think it's a mistake to think of large corporations as singular entities in these sorts of cases. Given what I know about big-company politics, I am positive that there are people inside Google who support banning Mahalo and others who do not. Political battles like these are not resolved quickly, and an ongoing visible public backlash is the best weapon those who support banning him have.

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If google cared they could switch him off in 2 seconds flat. And if they're not aware by now they're asleep at the switch.

I think it's a mistake to think of large corporations as singular entities in these sorts of cases. Given what I know about big-company politics, I am positive that there are people inside Google who support banning Mahalo and others who do not. Political battles like these are not resolved quickly, and an ongoing visible public backlash is the best weapon those who support banning him have.

If mahalo is 'borderline' or even 'ok' to a large faction inside Google they have real problems.

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Calacanis shady business practices have been outed for months , plenty of google employees read HN, there really is no reason for him to still be around in the google index.

Yup, this is the worst part, he is getting away with this even though tens of Google employees, and i'm sure including Matt Cutts, have read these articles. They do nothing about it..

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