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Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

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"desktop-class operating systems"

This guy is totally wrong. I could never develop software, games, or do my work on a current mobile platform.

Why do iOS fans seemingly feel like we've reached desktop/mobile feature parity?

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#32

"desktop-class operating systems" This guy is totally wrong. I could never develop software, games, or do my work on a current mobile platform. Why do iOS fans seemingly feel like we've reached desktop/mobile feature parity?

For your work, maybe not. But for many people iOS has replaced their desktop.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#33

Apple's acquisitions in AI: Emotient (Jan 2016), VocalIQ & Perceptio (Oct 2015); hiring: 86-100+ PhD level positions [1,2]; Apple's jobs board about "machine learning" (keywords): 109 [3]. I'm not sure which part of these spells "Apple’s apparent inaction" in AI field stated in the article? [1] https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-apple-ups-hiring... [2] http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/07/apple-f…

Also Amazon has their store as the killer feature, Apple has HomeKit as the killer feature.

What does Google have? I don't care about search results, they never work automatically, they don't work in a voice only environment.

If you disagree, search Google for "what happened to dinosaurs".

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#34
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The watch hasn't really done well Can we stop this? 6.5 Billion in it first year?

There is no conceivable metric that shows the Apple watch as a success. Apple, which routinely leaks units sold to business media, has not provided numbers for the watch. According to analysts sales dropped 90% a month after launch and 66% of watches sold were the low end model. Apple is a remarkably successful hardware company but (so far) their watch has fallen flat.

There aren't also "official" numbers for Samsung smartphones, but everyone says they are the best sellers.

There are no analysts numbers that support what you said.

And the "low end" model is above what others call the "high end" model.

The Apple Watch is, in all analysts reports, the #1 smart watch in sales numbers, by a wide margin.

Yes, Fitbit and Xiaomi may sell more, but those are $150 and $14 fitness bands, a stopgap solution.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

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post #33

Apple's acquisitions in AI: Emotient (Jan 2016), VocalIQ & Perceptio (Oct 2015); hiring: 86-100+ PhD level positions [1,2]; Apple's jobs board about "machine learning" (keywords): 109 [3]. I'm not sure which part of these spells "Apple’s apparent inaction" in AI field stated in the article? [1] https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-apple-ups-hiring... [2] http://iphone.appleinsider.com/articles/15/09/07/apple-f…

Also Amazon has their store as the killer feature, Apple has HomeKit as the killer feature. What does Google have? I don't care about search results, they never work automatically, they don't work in a voice only environment. If you disagree, search Google for "what happened to dinosaurs".

Google has many things going on for it other than search (and you dont have to go for dinosaurs, basic search in some Google properties, like YouTube, is quite terrible), that can count as killer features. Many people use it to organize their lives (calendar) or as comminication platform (hangout, email...) not to mention Google also has its own version of HomeKit as well.

My first insctinct when reading this article, though, is to question wether we put too much faith in the success of any service launched by Google and downplay any other competitor. Weirdly absent from Marco's list is IBM's Watson, quite a success story from a company that does not collect personal information on a daily basis yet somehow has been able to advance significally in the field of AI and Machine Learning.

Aside from that, maybe its me but I don't feel like Siri is so far behind serevices like Alexa or Cortana and until Google Assistant shows up in a more defined state, I wouldnt dare to put it ahead of the pack as well. There are a couple of things Alexa does better, but it mostly has to do with being open to third party services (which im assuming Siri will have soon) and better mic technology on the Echo, a hardware problem.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

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post #34
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no conceivable metric that shows the Apple watch as a success. Apple, which routinely leaks units sold to business media, has not provided numbers for the watch. According to analysts sales dropped 90% a month after launch and 66% of watches sold were the low end model. Apple is a remarkably successful hardware company but (so far) their watch has fallen flat.

There aren't also "official" numbers for Samsung smartphones, but everyone says they are the best sellers. There are no analysts numbers that support what you said. And the "low end" model is above what others call the "high end" model. The Apple Watch is, in all analysts reports, the #1 smart watch in sales numbers, by a wide margin. Yes, Fitbit and Xiaomi may sell more, but those are $150 and $14 fitness bands, a s…

There are no analysts numbers that support what you said.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/apple-watch-may-not-be-tick...

Metrics from article based on data from Slice

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#37

"desktop-class operating systems" This guy is totally wrong. I could never develop software, games, or do my work on a current mobile platform. Why do iOS fans seemingly feel like we've reached desktop/mobile feature parity?

For your work, maybe not. But for many people iOS has replaced their desktop.

Has it for you?

Do you know anyone for whom this is true?

I'm genuinely interested in where mobile has replaced desktop for production work.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#38
post #14

Hmm, I've never directly given Google a dollar, but I've spent thousands on Apple stuff primarily because they do not have big-data AI services. No company is perfect, but it's easy to see their priorities.

Thats the scary thing about Google. They've become so ubiquitous that you don't need to pay them directly for them to make money off of you. They make money off of the data that they are able to glean from your interactions on the web, your devices etc. Its strength might also be its weakness if the mass of consumers shift towards a more privacy oriented mindset.

I use Linux, iOS, NoScript, and DDG, so my interaction with big G is quite limited.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#39
Sorry, but Machine Learning and statistical AI is way over-hyped in my experience working in the industry. There are definitely very cool things coming from it. But the hype implies it will solve way more cases than it currently can.

Modeling complexity/cost is worse than exponential. The low hanging fruit is already taken. This doesn't mean we should stop doing it. But we should curve our expectations.

Re: Avoiding BlackBerry’s fate

#40
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Look at Alpha GO, it is an algorithmic exploit of a game, not a breakthrough Huh?

The "Breakthrough" for AlphaGO was that Go is well mapped by a Monte Carlo tree search. Once they figured out it became a domain specific problem and totally irrelevant as a general AI breakthrough.

Won't we end up saying that about all AI breakthroughs?

Once you know the trick, it doesn't look amazing anymore

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