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Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by civilian »

fluxquanta wrote: post #27
sageabilly wrote: post #16

It's great to see the advances in research that are being done around Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine as the results that are coming out look incredibly promising. That being said, godDAMN how in the hell is anyone ever going to take studies like this seriously when they're being reported as "Magic Mushrooms" in Scientific American of all places? This isn't raver kiddies eating dried who-knows-what out of ziplock bags…

Whenever pot-culture words come up in "reporting" about medical treatments I immediately tune out. That's not to say there aren't any potential health benefits but "toking herb" (or whatever) isn't the best way to present them to people who still demonize it.

I know there's been an effort to use the word "Cannabis" as a way to sound legitimate, instead of pot/weed/marijuana. Do you react better to 'cannabis'?

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by gjolund »

humbleMouse wrote: post #7

When I am finishing a mushroom experience I usually have overwhelming feelings of love and am excited to start the next day. My brain is racing with all the possibilities of life and ways I can make things better for myself. People should be coached in how to have a good mushroom experience and what to expect. Nature + fresh fruit + good music + comfy place to sleep has always been a winning combination for me.

I agree, and give mushrooms some credit for motivating me to make some of the most positive changes in my life.

For a life changing experience hike a few days into a national forest and drop some shrooms.

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by nxzero »

arxpoetica wrote: post #21
sageabilly wrote: post #16

It's great to see the advances in research that are being done around Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine as the results that are coming out look incredibly promising. That being said, godDAMN how in the hell is anyone ever going to take studies like this seriously when they're being reported as "Magic Mushrooms" in Scientific American of all places? This isn't raver kiddies eating dried who-knows-what out of ziplock bags…

A return to alchemy...

A return to science...

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by pigpaws »

Legalize, standardize, tax, repeat. Why is it that difficult? People will do anything to keep their grip on (perceived) power - even if it means destroying someone's life.

Gov't doesn't really want jobs, or tax revenue at the expense of their jobs. What would cops do if they weren't locking up kids for a joint?

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by dionidium »

theseatoms wrote: post #5
Torgo wrote: post #3

It worked for me in my 20's, but I think if I tried it again in my late 30's, it might make things worse. Mushrooms don't let you hide problems from yourself.

Then how exactly did it work for you in your 20s? Did it help you realize that you didn't have problems?

Did it help you realize that you didn't have problems?

Something like that. This is actually a pretty common sentiment. I know a lot of people who experimented with psychedelics in their 20s who in their 30s have said some variation of, "I don't think I'd want to do them now. I have too many things on my mind."

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by protomyth »

civilian wrote: post #31
fluxquanta wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whenever pot-culture words come up in "reporting" about medical treatments I immediately tune out. That's not to say there aren't any potential health benefits but "toking herb" (or whatever) isn't the best way to present them to people who still demonize it.

I know there's been an effort to use the word "Cannabis" as a way to sound legitimate, instead of pot/weed/marijuana. Do you react better to 'cannabis'?

You're right, I don't react better at all. They should stick with saying "THC and related compounds" instead. Its basically the same argument I have for the thorium folks, do not use "reactor" or "nuclear" in any naming or marketing.

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Post by davidw »

sageabilly wrote: post #16

It's great to see the advances in research that are being done around Psilocybin, MDMA, and Ketamine as the results that are coming out look incredibly promising. That being said, godDAMN how in the hell is anyone ever going to take studies like this seriously when they're being reported as "Magic Mushrooms" in Scientific American of all places? This isn't raver kiddies eating dried who-knows-what out of ziplock bags…

> Scientific American

My wife got that for a year, and I was quite unimpressed. It's not that detailed, mostly, and there's a lot of not very rigorous editorializing, from what I recall. Also, their 'please renew' campaign was quite deceiptful, sending us some kind of "you owe $$$!!!" notice that was really "you owe $$$ if you want to resubscribe".

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by atom-morgan »

Torgo wrote: post #3

It worked for me in my 20's, but I think if I tried it again in my late 30's, it might make things worse. Mushrooms don't let you hide problems from yourself.

> Mushrooms don't let you hide problems from yourself.

That's the entire point in my opinion. It's the closest I've ever come to feeling like I "took the red pill".

I can't speak for others but from my own experience there aren't bad trips. There are only uncomfortable trips. Uncomfortable because they're reveling a truth you don't want to accept.

Re: Magic mushrooms found to lift severe depression in clinical trial

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Post by joesmo »

The irony of psilocybin classification as a Schedule 1 drug is that it's not even addictive. But then again, the US government and America in general has never let facts get in the way of their goals to ruin people's lives. People have known this is an effective treatment for depression for many years. How many lives have been ruined simply because of its being illicit and unavailable to treat patients who needed it? When I think about it that way, I can't help but hope these murderers will one day get justice, but I know they won't.
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