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Wow, haha... While you are able to spell "capital transfer" and "capital generation", you've proven your grasp on the ideas to be... suspect. I've never seen the relationship between arbitrary capital transfer rates and anecdotally slow CGRs as an argument trying to prove the existence of a fixed pie, so I guess that's inventive.
Lucky for both of us economics is a philosophy instead of a science, and condescending attitudes can go both ways. :^) Suppose as you say, all capital grows uniformly (which it doesn't, but that's another issue) at +x% annually. Now suppose that certain demographics experience -(x+n)% of capital transfer, in the form of housing, healthcare, and other expenses. It doesn't matter how fast the "pie" grows as along as ca…
Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
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Re: Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
#32Ah the fixed-pie fallacy... A foundational pillar for so much of today's political rhetoric (on the right and left).
Can you elaborate what this has to do with fixed pie?
Re: Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
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I'm a fellow at one of the largest economic think tanks in the world. I've been studying various schools for 25+ years. I have a basic understanding. "On an infinite timescale"? That is literally meaningless. Show me ANY time scale where the pie has been fixed and I'll go away.
The pie is fixed in the short run, which is why the supply curve slopes upwards.
Re: Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a fellow at one of the largest economic think tanks in the world. I've been studying various schools for 25+ years. I have a basic understanding. "On an infinite timescale"? That is literally meaningless. Show me ANY time scale where the pie has been fixed and I'll go away.
Planck time. 1e-44 seconds.~ Fluctuations in the mass of the pie at shorter intervals would appear to observers within our universe as discontinuous jumps between discrete quantities of pie. Therefore, during that interval, the pie is fixed.~ Now go away.~ On a geologic timescale, pie has just appeared out of nothing, and is now covering the entire planet. On an infinite timescale, by naive extrapolation, the pie wil…
I would assert that if something is constantly going up, down, or holding steady at intervals that are largely "random", than it could hardly be considered fixed.
Re: Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a fellow at one of the largest economic think tanks in the world. I've been studying various schools for 25+ years. I have a basic understanding. "On an infinite timescale"? That is literally meaningless. Show me ANY time scale where the pie has been fixed and I'll go away.
Planck time. 1e-44 seconds.~ Fluctuations in the mass of the pie at shorter intervals would appear to observers within our universe as discontinuous jumps between discrete quantities of pie. Therefore, during that interval, the pie is fixed.~ Now go away.~ On a geologic timescale, pie has just appeared out of nothing, and is now covering the entire planet. On an infinite timescale, by naive extrapolation, the pie wil…
Re: Workers Are Getting a Bit More of the Economic Pie (and Shareholders Less)
#36The article notes that a greater percentage of national income is going to workers now, which may very well be true according to how the accounting is done. However, how much of that is because many large corporations are booking a great deal of their profits outside of the US, reducing the denominator in kind of an artificial way? I didn't see anything in the article that mentioned the potential effects of corporati…
Another possibility is to look at the compensation for upper management. C-level officers are usually paid in stock as well as cash, but the staff reporting directly to them are salaried employees. If you actually look at the graph (presented in the same article) it does not look like "the trend is reversing" at all. It rather looks like a very clear downwards trend with a strong cyclic component. So, when the times…
Chart 3 demonstrates this clearly. Non-management workers are receiving less compensation. http://0-search.ebscohost.com.skyline.ucdenver.edu/login.asp...
- Note, sorry it's behind a pay wall.
Alt cite: MAGDOFF, F., & FOSTER, J. B. (2013). Class War and Labor's Declining Share. Monthly Review: An Independent Socialist Magazine, 64(10), 1.
EDIT: Was able to find a public link, through Google Scholar: http://search.proquest.com/openview/4be2b770b6d137e018c146e5...