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FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

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Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

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post #22

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So they should be clandestinely involved, instead? They're going to do it anyways, I'd rather know about it.

False dichotomy is false. They didn't have to do this, and by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money.

Don't they have a tool to get into other iPhone's now?

$1,000,000 doesn't seem too bad.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#32
post #12

Same article on the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/af23e3ea-07f1-11e6-b6d3-746f8e9cdd... James Comey, director of the FBI, said on Thursday that the cost was “worth it”, but added that an accommodation needed to be made with Apple and other technology companies in the future, as paying outside technologists to find ways to access highly-encrypted messages on phones used by terrorist suspects was not “scalable.”

The only reason it would be 'Worth it' is if they found something of note (something to help prosecution of other criminals or prevent further attacks). Is there any reason to believe that this hack accomplished this? What else would make it 'worth it'? Or is this just politicking?

It's just politicking, its "worth it" because they get to flex their muscle and show the world that they don't need apple's cooperation to get what they want.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#33
post #12

Same article on the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/af23e3ea-07f1-11e6-b6d3-746f8e9cdd... James Comey, director of the FBI, said on Thursday that the cost was “worth it”, but added that an accommodation needed to be made with Apple and other technology companies in the future, as paying outside technologists to find ways to access highly-encrypted messages on phones used by terrorist suspects was not “scalable.”

> was not “scalable.”

This is the same James Comey that said they just were just asking Apple for access to just that one phone.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#35
post #12

Same article on the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/af23e3ea-07f1-11e6-b6d3-746f8e9cdd... James Comey, director of the FBI, said on Thursday that the cost was “worth it”, but added that an accommodation needed to be made with Apple and other technology companies in the future, as paying outside technologists to find ways to access highly-encrypted messages on phones used by terrorist suspects was not “scalable.”

It was worth it to get out of a court case they were obviously losing that would establish precedent.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False dichotomy is false. They didn't have to do this, and by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money.

Don't they have a tool to get into other iPhone's now? $1,000,000 doesn't seem too bad.

Not necessarily, they might not own the tool, just paid for someone to use it on the phone.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#37
post #12

Same article on the FT: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/af23e3ea-07f1-11e6-b6d3-746f8e9cdd... James Comey, director of the FBI, said on Thursday that the cost was “worth it”, but added that an accommodation needed to be made with Apple and other technology companies in the future, as paying outside technologists to find ways to access highly-encrypted messages on phones used by terrorist suspects was not “scalable.”

The only reason it would be 'Worth it' is if they found something of note (something to help prosecution of other criminals or prevent further attacks). Is there any reason to believe that this hack accomplished this? What else would make it 'worth it'? Or is this just politicking?

> Is there any reason to believe that this hack accomplished this?

You mean besides the fact that the FBI guy said it was worth it? You don't expect them to publish the intel they got from the phone before being able to act on it, no?

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#38
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they should be clandestinely involved, instead? They're going to do it anyways, I'd rather know about it.

False dichotomy is false. They didn't have to do this, and by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money.

> by all accounts, received nothing of value for the money

How can you know that?

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#39
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only reason it would be 'Worth it' is if they found something of note (something to help prosecution of other criminals or prevent further attacks). Is there any reason to believe that this hack accomplished this? What else would make it 'worth it'? Or is this just politicking?

It's just politicking, its "worth it" because they get to flex their muscle and show the world that they don't need apple's cooperation to get what they want.

And because it wasn't their own money.

Re: FBI Paid More Than $1M to Hack San Bernardino iPhone

#40

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Well now they have a tool they can use at any time.

On iPhone 5. Until Apple updates the software to fix the vulnerability.

If they know what to fix. FBI aren't idiots to tell them.
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