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The life of a copy editor in the digital age is one rife with peril, so it seems.
In the digital age wouldn't the life of a copy editor be rife with perl?
Alright, you and you. Out of the pool.
Steve Miller: The Whole Music Industry Is Fuckin' Gangsters and Crooks
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#32this happens in any industry run by gatekeepers.
see: hollywood, video games, venture backed technology startups, fashion.
all these verticals are run by assholes and basically suck unless you become a successful indie outfit.
p.s. it doesn't surprise me the hall of fame was started by a bunch of lawyers and people from rolling stone, a magazine with basically zero journalistic integrity, at best.
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#33I know it's trite to say, but it is probably good to be reminded how often people held up as being successful are, often, deeply unhappy. Michael Jordan is another canonical example. To live these lives of unparalleled, almost supernatural greatness, and then end up embittered... The stoics did nothing wrong. EDIT: to clarify, I'm not dismissing Miller's critique at all, I'm noting that someone living, literally, a r…
I agree completely. While an adult should be able to choose that life, I consider it practically child abuse for a parent to put their child into the entertainment industry.
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#34I owned a SMALL Record Label and Studio. I was (still?) good at picking out talent in bands. The Whole Industry Sucks I had two bands that ended up on Major Labels and Toured the World. I met a kid on the street wearing one of my Bands shirts and struck up a conversation. They still love the band 10 years later. These guys per person made at the TOP $7,000 in profit after expenses were paid. One band did a KickStarte…
Steve Albini's essay The Problem With Music is essential reading. It explains in detail the catastrophically bad financial outlook for most musicians.
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#35He was also pissed because they wanted to charge him $10k per ticket to the event for his bandmates: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/arts/music/after-his-induc...
Ha! That sounds like certain for-profit conferences.
"You've been selected a speaker for our super elite conference! You can invite your friends to attend for the paltry sum of $XYZ. Oh and it'll also cost you $ABC..."
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#37One aspect of this is really funny to me - my friend and I busked in NYC in the summer after high school, and each made roughly $2500 a month until we stopped to go to college. That seems to be more than most actual bands make!
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#38I know it's trite to say, but it is probably good to be reminded how often people held up as being successful are, often, deeply unhappy. Michael Jordan is another canonical example. To live these lives of unparalleled, almost supernatural greatness, and then end up embittered... The stoics did nothing wrong. EDIT: to clarify, I'm not dismissing Miller's critique at all, I'm noting that someone living, literally, a r…
>The wise man knows that it is better to sit on the banks of a remote mountain stream than to be emperor of the whole world. -Zhuangzi
"The best life is the one the gods don't notice."
- Steven Erikson, "Gardens of the Moon"
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#39I owned a SMALL Record Label and Studio. I was (still?) good at picking out talent in bands. The Whole Industry Sucks I had two bands that ended up on Major Labels and Toured the World. I met a kid on the street wearing one of my Bands shirts and struck up a conversation. They still love the band 10 years later. These guys per person made at the TOP $7,000 in profit after expenses were paid. One band did a KickStarte…
I used to work in a record shop and found out first hand how much promotion a band needs just to sell a few CD's. I can't tell you how many insanely good bands died because either the label didn't promote them, or they just ran out of cash and quit. The only problem I see nowadays is there's virtually no vetting process. It used to be the good bands would eventually rise to the top and the shitty garage bands would b…
For me, it's still primarily http://last.fm/ 's similar artist feature.
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You've done a strong job of describing what I felt years and years ago, and have come to learn is the lay of the land still in the music business. Labels have done a fantastic job of maintaining their gate-keeper status and of being able to break new artists into the mainstream. What didn't change with the internet is, partially kidding here, that 14 year old girls decide what's going to be popular. Outside of that,…
>> "Also Skrillex - his label had no interest in his bleep-blonk-screech-BASS DROP tunes and he set it free online and got that avenue going - now he's got his own label and millions in the bank." Financially I think artists like Skrillex (EDM producers in general) are incredibly lucky. Production costs are practically zero. You buy a DAW and some monitors and you can do everything at home on your laptop. You don't n…
a lot of electronic shows are more complicated than that, but i think for someone who chooses to be lean, yeah it's basically like being a programmer that throws parties for a living instead of a band.