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Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

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Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#31

"This goes through a secret process that eventually gets me connected to the CID (touchscreen) with root privileges." give me back my 2 mins, please.

Additionally, > "This allowed me to make a special REST call to the CID to enable factory mode." > "So, I plugged in my laptop and ran a script I had pre-written: obtain_root". Then, an image of the a script that spouts gibberish to the console. Props to the author for the significant effort they put in the hack. But it does seem like the author is intentionally glossing over some parts of the hack (actually spelling…

Tesla already knows of the procedure.

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#32

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Like... um.... what, exactly? People could take control of their own vehicles and exercise the privileges that ought to come with ownership? The ability to jailbreak a Tesla is the only thing that might make me interested in owning one.

Teslas are exposed to the internet via the wlan/gsm connection built into the car. It would be very bad if this were exploited.

Given that it involves physical access to the car, and a fairly intensive degree of it from the looks of the photo series, how exactly would anyone but the car's owner or an authorized mechanic go about using such an exploit?

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#33

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I'm pretty sure that wasn't disclosed as lots of dangerous things could be done in the wrong hands.

Like... um.... what, exactly? People could take control of their own vehicles and exercise the privileges that ought to come with ownership? The ability to jailbreak a Tesla is the only thing that might make me interested in owning one.

I agree wholeheartedly, just as of now have decided not to release the procedure. I said elsewhere but Tesla knows of this and so far has chose to not change it. If it becomes a trend which every owner could easily do I have no doubt they would quickly change their minds. Barring that, there is enough information out there for a determined individual to accomplish this.

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like... um.... what, exactly? People could take control of their own vehicles and exercise the privileges that ought to come with ownership? The ability to jailbreak a Tesla is the only thing that might make me interested in owning one.

It seems like the new car that you just created should have to be checked out and approved as street legal. How do you know that the changes you have made still meet safety regulations and the like?

One could reasonably propose that things ought to work that way, but that is not, in fact, the way things have ever worked, at least not in the USA. People routinely make very substantial alterations to their cars and continue driving them on the street with no legal process involved. "Street legal" is not an exacting standard and no inspections are required for an altered vehicle (so far as I know, anyway) beyond whatever routine process your state requires as part of the registration process. (Here in Washington state, that's just an emissions test.)

I used to be part of a 4x4 club; we routinely rebuilt our trucks' suspensions, changed out the gearing, replaced wheels and tires with bigger ones, installed power steering systems adapted from some other type of vehicle, swapped our engines or axles out for bigger, tougher ones, swapped out entire drivetrains - you name the component, somebody in the club probably modified or replaced it.

We weren't even doing anything unusual by recreational offroading standards, much less hot-rodding standards. We weren't building tube frames, and most of us didn't modify our frames at all. Nobody had ripped off all the sheet metal on their truck and replaced it all with a molded fiberglass replica; none of us installed superchargers or nitrous injection or anything like that. I'd guess no more than half of us even knew how to weld.

Modified cars are on the road all the time; you've seen thousands of them whether you realize it or not. If this were a big safety problem, there would have been a moral panic about it decades ago. Tweaking the software in a Tesla is completely insignificant by comparison. No, it doesn't need to be checked out and approved.

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Additionally, > "This allowed me to make a special REST call to the CID to enable factory mode." > "So, I plugged in my laptop and ran a script I had pre-written: obtain_root". Then, an image of the a script that spouts gibberish to the console. Props to the author for the significant effort they put in the hack. But it does seem like the author is intentionally glossing over some parts of the hack (actually spelling…

Tesla already knows of the procedure.

Can u email me srschere it is an arizona state University email address (.edu)... thanks!

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#36
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If he's talking about getting root on that big screen in the middle, it's been done before: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/let-the-hacking-begi... However, the guy who did it before told everyone exactly how he did it, without any "secret script sorry :^)".

wk57 got direct access to the CID by unsoldering the ROM from a salvaged screen. I honestly wouldn't have the guts to do that.

This is an easy way to go if you are good at soldering under a microscope to put it back together. I've considered doing it this way but I'd prefer to figure out the software route...

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#37

"This goes through a secret process that eventually gets me connected to the CID (touchscreen) with root privileges." give me back my 2 mins, please.

Click on the image showing the terminal.

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-e08E6tXwQvc/VwSTUbXgFDI/AAAAAAAAA...

Re: Getting root access on a Tesla Model S

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like the new car that you just created should have to be checked out and approved as street legal. How do you know that the changes you have made still meet safety regulations and the like?

One could reasonably propose that things ought to work that way, but that is not, in fact, the way things have ever worked, at least not in the USA. People routinely make very substantial alterations to their cars and continue driving them on the street with no legal process involved. "Street legal" is not an exacting standard and no inspections are required for an altered vehicle (so far as I know, anyway) beyond wh…

Tweaking the software in autopilot could cause it to kill you and anyone else on the road. For example, you might accidentally make it not return control to the driver when it can no longer navigate or cause it to accelerate out of control. It isn't clear to me that increasing horsepower or changing the wheels is as significant. There are a bunch of common modifications that are outright illegal like high/low-riding changes, emissions, lighting, etc. though it is on a state by state basis in the US.

http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2012/07/the-top-5-ille...

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