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Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

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I'm getting married in May in Sonoma. I will have somewhere around 150 guests which is sizable. I've already booked pretty much every service needed for the wedding: venue, caterer, photographer, videographer, DJ, wedding planner, florist, hairdresser, makeup artist etc.

Feedback:

1. I'm the groom. The truth is, weddings are really for brides. Yes, we're both getting married, but it's all about the bride. My fiancée is a typical SF professional. I can tell you right now she would be skeptical about a "bidding" process. Believe it or not, the wedding planning process for her is fun. It's a lot of work, but "curating" her own wedding is enjoyable. Although I can totally understand why from a groom's perspective we just want to 99designs the problem away. :)

2. I'm not sure how you will convince the better vendors to join your program. It sounds like this is a great platform for up and coming wedding vendors, but once they get good - they won't need your service anymore. They'll have clout on Yelp or theknot or weddingwire. And people that are looking for good vendors will go seek them out.

3. Putting down a credit card is a scary thing - most of the contract stuff comes way later. Many of our vendors went through honeybook.com. What's to stop them from just going outside of your system and giving the bride and groom a better deal? How do you ensure you will have lock-in?

4. Maybe you'll charge money for the bidding process? Or try to place ads?

This is a great space to disrupt...I hope a product like this becomes popular at some point because weddings can be really tough to plan.

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

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I'm getting married in May in Sonoma. I will have somewhere around 150 guests which is sizable. I've already booked pretty much every service needed for the wedding: venue, caterer, photographer, videographer, DJ, wedding planner, florist, hairdresser, makeup artist etc. Feedback: 1. I'm the groom. The truth is, weddings are really for brides. Yes, we're both getting married, but it's all about the bride. My fiancée…

First, congrats on getting married!

Some thoughts on your comments: 1. I don't necessarily think that our solution is for everyone. We're looking to find our little niche in the market where a couple is ok with forgo-ing some of the work involved with the planning process in the hope to save time and potentially money. It's not for everyone, the same way airbnb wasn't for everyone when it first came out. If we can unlock a small market, we think we can grow it. Time will tell!

2. Very similar issue here with vendors as well. We're looking at a niche vendor group at first. Ideally it's top notch vendors who need help getting the word out. Also will help if they are tech savvy and willing to respond quickly electronically.

3. We really like honeybook.com, we may consider using them until payments are fully built out. In terms of lock in, we're looking to get the clients to really work on the iteration back and forth with the vendors (in many silos) at the same time. The goal will be that they see the technology/payment/insurance/etc all integral to the process. It's ideally similar to the feeling you feel when you book an apartment with airbnb, sure.. you could just message the host through airbnb and try to pay them directly, but with the services they offer, it wouldn't make sense. We're still at an early stage, so yea.. it's a danger in the beginning.

4. We're brainstorming the many different monetization points possible. We may just lower the barriers as much as possible initially to find customers, then look to monetize more heavily when we have actual data.

Thanks for the thoughts here. Would love for you to check out wedwell.co and give the wedding brief a try (even just as a test). It's evolving over the next few days with feedback we've received here, but please do give it a try!

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

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Providing this functionality by date would have been a major time-saver for us as we were planning our wedding. Tons of vendors we were interested in did not have availability for our wedding date, we would find out well after researching their portfolio and fees.

Thanks! Similar to Airbnb and host availability, we think we can offer an up to date calendar of when a vendor is available as we scale. It's really surprising how little of this information (availability in this case) is locked away, and not available readily. Thanks for the input!

Allowing the businesses themselves to operate/plan better/hire extra staff when in need could be another great reason to be on the system!

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#34
I am curious about the alignment of incentives here. As others have pointed out, this industry is notoriously expensive with vendors enjoying comfortable profits without having to go through this direct competition platform amongst their peers. What incentive do they have for joining the platform?

Furthermore, what incentive does a couple about to get married have for joining the platform? It sounds like they are somewhat locked into the vendors that come to them. I think you mention that they can cancel but then there is then no incentive for the couple to take it seriously. It turns into quote shopping instead of an actual marketplace.

I like the idea because this space is ripe for change. There is a lot of money flowing around and people who get married are confused about where is the best/most affordable/most reputable place to put it. I think if you can align the incentives on both side properly, this could be a real winner.

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#35
Interesting idea! A few thoughts to share: I would love to see a few "pre-built" themes/templates to choose and draw inspirations from. I once saw a youtube clip of a Star Wars-themed wedding and thought "hey that is not a bad idea for my future wedding", so I think it may be interesting for your site to curate those information first and build different themes.

The benefits are twofold: customers can get a flavour of what your platform can offer (say, for my case, I would think "oh hey that Star Wars wedding theme is listed here! My idea of such a wedding wasn't so crazy after all); vendors that specialise in certain niche themes can have a chance to be featured in your platform, which hopefully leads to more sales.

Well, best of luck to you! It's unusual to see couples building tech companies together :)

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#36
I worked in the wedding space for 6 months.

This one's tough because weddings are close to the hearts, wallets, and our natural discretion on nepotism.

Finding new couples each and every day is the most expensive thing about this business.

ThumbTack attempts to do something like this. As a super ghetto immature growth tactic to let wedding DJ's know about the app I was marketing, I "requested bids" in 47 states for a wedding that was priced high for the app's founders. The requirement for the DJ's was they had to download the app and go through a quiz on how it works.

Lots of reasons why this is a tough space, but primarily anyone bidding on weddings probably is of low quality. Tough decision/motivation matrix here. I'd graph it out on a whiteboard and talk to all players.

DJs, caterers, etc... good thing is they're all reachable to have conversations with and many are struggling to find consistent gigs.

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#37

I am curious about the alignment of incentives here. As others have pointed out, this industry is notoriously expensive with vendors enjoying comfortable profits without having to go through this direct competition platform amongst their peers. What incentive do they have for joining the platform? Furthermore, what incentive does a couple about to get married have for joining the platform? It sounds like they are som…

I think you're on target. The hardest thing here is getting this the incentives aligned here. Our incentives for the couple need to be need to be more focused on ease of use/process, less on being cheaper. We may steer that way in our messaging as we iterate.

On the vendor side, one thought is that we may need to consider being less of a market place and more of a tool that allows couples to quickly iterate and pay for services with any vendor. So the discovery of the vendors could happen outside of our service, and we help with the pain points of initial iteration and payments. Eventually we could open up the market place as an addition to our services.

We're super early, so your thoughts and others are helping us shape our development. Thanks again.

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#38

I worked in the wedding space for 6 months. This one's tough because weddings are close to the hearts, wallets, and our natural discretion on nepotism. Finding new couples each and every day is the most expensive thing about this business. ThumbTack attempts to do something like this. As a super ghetto immature growth tactic to let wedding DJ's know about the app I was marketing, I "requested bids" in 47 states for a…

Agreed. Weddings are tough. You can't just win on price, it needs to be a win on expirience.

Client acquisition in the couple space is also not easy. Once you acquire the customer, the value has to come with that one wedding. We've considering creating this as a vendor solution that reduces friction between the vendor and clients. Then we can acquire vendors, and work on vendor retention. We're still really early here, so we're doing a bunch of trial an error as we launch.

Thanks again

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#39

Interesting idea! A few thoughts to share: I would love to see a few "pre-built" themes/templates to choose and draw inspirations from. I once saw a youtube clip of a Star Wars-themed wedding and thought "hey that is not a bad idea for my future wedding", so I think it may be interesting for your site to curate those information first and build different themes. The benefits are twofold: customers can get a flavour o…

Thanks for this. We've started experimenting with a brief that's a bit more visual, allowing for a client to select weddings that look inline with what they are looking to do.

Thanks, actually the team isn't a couple working together. Just a bunch of friends.

Re: Apply HN: WedWell - Vendors bid for your wedding

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! Similar to Airbnb and host availability, we think we can offer an up to date calendar of when a vendor is available as we scale. It's really surprising how little of this information (availability in this case) is locked away, and not available readily. Thanks for the input!

Allowing the businesses themselves to operate/plan better/hire extra staff when in need could be another great reason to be on the system!

Absolutely, there could be many aspects of planning that could be made easier if they are tracking everything on one system.
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