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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#31
post #18

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I don't see you making a point that is relevant.

I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe I should have used "Swiss army knife" instead of smartphones? The point is that Vivaldi is a toolbox. Some people like toolboxes.

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Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#32
post #4

I'm yet to understand the hype. Perhaps there are users out there to whom it is appealing, but personally I don't see the need for the features they bring out like notes in the browser or stacking tabs next to one another. These are things I can already do using standalone applications or a window manager. I would rather a browser be simple and most importantly stable and fast.

The tab tiling is interesting, maybe it can be made into a chrome extension (I wouldn't bet on it though).

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#33
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe I should have used "Swiss army knife" instead of smartphones? The point is that Vivaldi is a toolbox. Some people like toolboxes.

I wouldn't say it's a toolbox, it's just another browser with some more sugar strapped to it out of the box. Coming back to your smartphone analogy, it's just another smartphone with more stock apps that many users don't want at all.

You mean like pre-built toolboxes have some tools many people don't really want? Good thing people can choose the toolboxes they find the most ideal, even if it contains only a hammer and a duct type and a lot of empty space, isn't it? :)

When Opera switched from Presto to Chromium, it was about as fast, but it was much lighter. Yet, almost every Opera fan/"customer" at the time was pretty mad. It was not because they were attached to Presto, but because of the huge feature depreciation. It's the features what made people use Opera until its 12th iteration, and some even use it today despite it having huge issues chewing through the bloat of JS on some sites.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#34
post #23

Its UI is made with Javascript. As if I don't already have a bad enough time dealing with sloth websites, they have to pile it on. Not even worth a try.

Javascript is plenty fast, I don't see why you shouldn't use it to power a browser.

It may be fast, but I don't see a scripting language winning out compiled native code on speed. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the speed difference is large enough that it matters in something as simple as a basic UI.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#35
I'm glad there's something. Chrome simply sucks[1]. Firefox is complicated[1], and even if you invest time, there are too many things wrong[1]. There's not much else (as in different).

I tried Vivaldi many times over the last year, and my conclusion is that I find it unusably slow. They take direction I like, but they chose technology that is bad (but cheap). Maybe it will get better, I surely hope so. Another nitpick of mine is that it uses WebKit (or whatever it's called now) and I hate using that.. but I do... because browser market (and perhaps web itself as a result) is in a really bad state.

What makes it different (and better in my eyes)? It's a browser usable out of the box, without any extensions. Not to say there shouldn't be any extensions, just that the basic functionality and configuration should be there.

1. For me obviously, personal preference and all.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#37
I'd definitely want a new browser, but one which promises it won't slow down like hell after a few days of use until I open a 100 tabs. The stackable tabs features is nice, but I'd prefer someone creates a Firefox extension to do the same.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 1.0

#38
A month ago when I tried Vivaldi, it seemed quite slow to load websites. But it could also be the blinking progress bar that tricks me to have that impression. Anyone else?

Also, waiting to see the promised mailer app. I still use Opera Mail for my mail but now that it is in the Chinese hands, I do not feel comfortable updating it.

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