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Introducing Safari Technology Preview

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Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#31
post #9

Menu bar says "safari tech preview" and not just safari like WebKit nightly. That is big for me. Does anyone know why WebKit nightly doesn't say WebKit nightly?

The Safari Tech Preview is a full-fledged copy of Safari that bundles its own WebKit frameworks rather than using the system frameworks. As it's a separate application it can have a different name, and use an independent copy of preferences, history, bookmarks, etc. from the system version of Safari.

WebKit nightly builds run your system version of Safari with an updated version of the WebKit frameworks. This means that the application you're running is your normal version of Safari. The WebKit nightlies do some shenanigans to convince the system to do things like display a different Dock icon, for instance, but for the most part they just let Safari be Safari.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't been following the news lately I see. Yes, it is.

Since I've apparently missed "the news", would you care to provide a link?

https://bencollier.net/2016/03/unable-to-open-links-in-safar...

http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/28/technology/iphone-safari-bug...

http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/28/its-not-just-you-clicking-o...

http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/new-...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/apple_safari_bug/

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&obj...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/new...

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/63841...

http://milwaukee.suntimes.com/mil-news/7/121/284320/glitch-o...

http://betanews.com/2016/03/24/ios-9-3-os-x-10-11-4-el-capit...

http://www.techshout.com/macintosh/2016/28/ios-9-3-link-bug-...

http://www.mactechnews.de/news/article/Link-Crash-Apple-kuen...

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#35
Programmatic cut and copy to the clipboard It’s now possible to programmatically copy and cut text in response to a user gesture with document.execCommand('copy') and document.execCommand('cut'). Having this ability may eliminate some websites’ last need for the Flash plug-in.

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:'( - So much pain erased in a single stroke!

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#37

So what is Apple going to do about fixing bugs in Safari in iOS quicker? I shouldn't have to wait for 3 months for awful rendering issues that entirely prevent me from viewing important websites to be fixed! Obviously it's unpopular to complain about Apple and their dreadful fix timeframes, but there are often thousands of affected websites and often Apple have a fix already checked in and tested. But Apple being App…

"Important websites"... because only the websites that you visit are important.

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since I've apparently missed "the news", would you care to provide a link?

https://bencollier.net/2016/03/unable-to-open-links-in-safar... http://money.cnn.com/2016/03/28/technology/iphone-safari-bug... http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/28/its-not-just-you-clicking-o... http://www.news.com.au/technology/gadgets/mobile-phones/new-... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/apple_safari_bug/ http://m.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&obj... http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ga…

OK, so users with a particular app had Safari issues, the app got patched, and Apple's planning on fixing their end of the bug per http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/28/its-not-just-you-clicking-o.... "Booking.com associates its app with all sorts of domains — too many domains to be precise. With 2.4MB worth of domain-name-to-deep-link entries, Safari and other apps crash when iOS checks links against its Universal Link database because this database is too big."

Your criticism seems doubly odd now. Should Apple pause all Safari development whenever a bug is encountered? What are you proposing?

edit: Since I can't reply:

> Any app with a link association file that had too many links can cause Safari to totally stop working.

Yes, there's apparently a bug, triggered by the rare apps that pad out the file to enormous sizes. Not sure why you felt the need to spend ten minutes updating your post with every mention of it you could find (along with unrelated stuff from 2015).

> This has been discussed to death already, you are very late to the party here.

I'm extremely sorry I missed a bit of tech news about an edge-case bug that doesn't affect me. I'll try harder in the future.

> It's totally within the realms of possibility that Apple can do more frequent bug fixes and develop new features.

OK, but from the looks of the dates on those articles, this bug has been known about for about a week. Do you always fix every reported bug in a week or less, or do they sometimes take a little while to fix and QA? iOS has a bit of a larger user footprint to consider, too. Given there's a workaround - patch the apps with bloated link associations - I'm dubious of the need to rush an update here.

edit 2:

> edit: you can reply, press the link that takes you to my direct comme t and hit reply.

No, I can't. "Submitting too quickly".

Re: Introducing Safari Technology Preview

#39

Nice to have more visibility into which features are coming to WebKit, especially since they don't release to consumers very often. Bummed to not see WebRTC on here though.

They've been releasing nightly builds for over a decade. Easy to install, uses same Safari UI, and can be run alongside release versions of Safari.
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