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Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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I'm disturbed by the amount of CSS that was used to try to make the page look like it hadn't been styled. Font choice: "propagandaregular". Are we being trolled?

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That's the name of the font. They chose it because it looked nice, not out of some kind of attempt at brainwashing.

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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Literal thought policing...

Yup. Is their belief system so fragile, that letting a person speak will destroy it???

I'd say they have enough integrity to not support a parent organization that has made an odious decision.

There's a different between "allowing someone to speak (anywhere, at all)" and "providing them a platform." The parent org has decided to provide a platform, which has consequences.

You can disagree about the decisions made, but your "belief system so fragile" is a strawman.

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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From the linked site within the linked site: > The controversy had nothing to do with the talk, which by all accounts was a great fit for the eclectic topics served up every year by the conference. Rather, the controversy surrounded the speaker’s political views, which were penned under a pseudonym years prior. Can we please stop this? If I read right, this guy decided to kill a conference because he didn't like the…

Just so everyone's on the same page, some of the thoughts in question: https://twitter.com/aphyr/status/606576005667504129

For the same purpose, here is some of his technical work. Sometimes lunatics can do good work:

http://urbit.org/docs/theory/whitepaper

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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The post by Curtis Yarvin cited as cause for PrlCnf to withdraw from LambdaConf (since no one has mentioned it yet):

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.fr/2009/07/why-carl...

I personally feel that LambdaConf could have reached out to the many brilliant minds in the functional programming community and chosen a speaker more reflective of their values. Yarvin's assured us all he's going to give a technical talk, not chat about the merits of entering into a contract of slavery. But LambdaConf has taken a risk by giving him a pulpit to speak from, and it's up to each attendee to decide whether that sits well with them.

It still wouldn't sit well with me, nor were the PrlCnf organizers willing to tolerate it. They're making a conscious choice to answer Yarvin's invitation with a boycott - another form of free expression. Other LambdaConf attendees may do the same, if they feel Yarvin is sufficiently extreme in his views.

And that's freedom of speech in action.

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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That's the name of the font. They chose it because it looked nice, not out of some kind of attempt at brainwashing.

Indeed. that css is leftover from a previous version of the page. You can view the history of that page here: https://github.com/jonsterling/JonPRL/commits/gh-pages/prlco...

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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If you're going to start a massive drama based on accusing someone of saying something bad, please quote the bad thing directly. When you call someone an "advocate for slavery", I check your accusation for links and verifiable quotes. If there aren't any, then I reflexively assume this is someone who ran over your dog, stole your girlfriend, and said nothing of the sort. Thank you.

EDIT: I have been informed that Jon Sterling may have read an out-of-context quote in which Yarvin may have been summarizing 19th-century philosopher Thomas Carlyle, whom Wikipedia describes as a "satirical writer", and not had his dog run over after all. (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11363159) But also he might really believe it, and I'll only have to read about 1.5*10^5 words to be sure.

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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If you're going to start a massive drama based on accusing someone of saying something bad, please quote the bad thing directly . When you call someone an "advocate for slavery", I check your accusation for links and verifiable quotes. If there aren't any, then I reflexively assume this is someone who ran over your dog, stole your girlfriend, and said nothing of the sort. Thank you. EDIT: I have been informed that Jo…

The individual in question is Curtis Yarvin aka "Mencius Moldbug".

Quote: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGr9pDjW8AA23uT.jpg

Source: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.be/2009/07/why-carl...

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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> The program committee feel that we cannot possibly organize a workshop under the umbrella of a conference that values the free expression of racist and fascist views over the physical and emotional safety of its attendees and speakers.

Ummm, none of those views are to be expressed at LambdaConf. There is no threat to anyone's physical safety, and the only threat to anyone's emotional safety is solely self-originated.

Under the circumstances, I cannot have anything to do with Jon Sterling, because I can't trust that he will behave like an adult in a pluralistic society.

Re: PrlConf 2016 is cancelled

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If you're going to start a massive drama based on accusing someone of saying something bad, please quote the bad thing directly . When you call someone an "advocate for slavery", I check your accusation for links and verifiable quotes. If there aren't any, then I reflexively assume this is someone who ran over your dog, stole your girlfriend, and said nothing of the sort. Thank you. EDIT: I have been informed that Jo…

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