Learning from Tay’s introduction • Hacker News Board

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by Retr0spectrum » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:31 PM UTC

DCoder wrote: post #17

cableshaft wrote: post #4

Anyone see this in action? What sort of vulnerability was being exploited? What types of things was the chatbot saying?

https://www.reddit.com/r/tay_tweets has lots of examples, most of them 4chan-level. These few are completely different and certainly interesting: https://i.imgur.com/iVof3D4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/YwlfwyL.png https://i.imgur.com/IlpFUiZ.png (though it's hard to confirm they're legit, as Retr0spectrum points out).

I think the second one was fake.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by mrexroad » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:31 PM UTC

So if they train an "anti-model" based on 4chan comments over a period of time, what would be the next phase of trolling? Excessive politeness?

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by mabbo » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:32 PM UTC

As one friend said: hey, at least Tay passed the Bechdel Test.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by gaze » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:32 PM UTC

It's strange to me that they claim to have implemented some filtering but somehow Tay was saying all sorts of things about Hitler. How do you not anticipate this? I'd imagine the most rudimentary filtering would block Tay from talking about Hitler.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by pjmorris » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:32 PM UTC

bliti wrote: post #13

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Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by petercooper » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:33 PM UTC

I'm not entirely convinced. I did Twitter searches for some of the phrases Tay "said" and found random tweets made by other people weeks ago it was quoting through a filter (lower casing, mostly). So it can't entirely be down to trolls attempting to game the bot - it was actively plucking content from tweets that pre-dated its release.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by daodedickinson » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:34 PM UTC

"we planned and implemented a lot of filtering"...

I just don't get how you even allow it to use the word "Hitler". Or "cucks". Or "fuck" or "pussy" or "stupid whore". Probably not "cock" or "naughty" or "kinky". The k word? How is that not in your filtering?! It seems impossible to me that an "exploit" would allow that; it was a full-blown oversight.

Everything else said... she totally passed Turing test and fit right in. Yet another letter handwritten on the wall in these, the last days of democracy. If you want an AI or NI that represents the best of humanity, you have to have it learn from a small number of the best works and best people, not from mass media or pop culture. Send Tay to St. John's in Santa Fe or Annapolis, not Twitter.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by andrewvijay » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:34 PM UTC

That was one hell of an intro to an AI bot. MS just added some spice to the drink.

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by clw8 » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:34 PM UTC

placeybordeaux wrote: post #23

This leads me to wonder if there is less effort put into trolling on the Chinese Internet. Does anyone with experience in both internets (weebo & twitter for instance) have anything to share? Also does anyone know of some good English language digests of what is happening on the Chinese Internet? I was really interested by brother orange when that happened, and only knew kind of late.

Trolling is just as prevalent on the Chinese internet. Of course, there are topics that won't make it past the filters, but there is a lot of hate speech towards China's opponents like Japan and the US, so I am quite surprised that XiaoIce hasn't learned to say "kill Japanese devils and attack the US imperialists!"

Re: Learning from Tay’s introduction

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Post by chiph » Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 8:35 PM UTC

tacos wrote: post #27

Microsoft seems perpetually five to seven years behind the culture. You can see it in their ads, their product names, their outreach. Ironically it can actually be quite lucrative. I remember talking to people in the music group about MySpace (I was not an employee). They looked at me funny. Ten minutes later someone finally said "You keep pronouncing the product wrong. It's called MSN Spaces." The people working on…

The MySpace sale was in 2005. That's 10 years ago - a virtual eternity.