Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by swombat » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:14 PM UTC

JonCox wrote: post #28

No updated MacBook Pro? That's annoying. I was rather hoping for a small refresh to include the new Skylake processors, it's certainly due one: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac

Yeah, dammit! I would basically have bought an MBPR 15" right away if they'd released one....

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by projct » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:15 PM UTC

JonCox wrote: post #28

No updated MacBook Pro? That's annoying. I was rather hoping for a small refresh to include the new Skylake processors, it's certainly due one: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac

Sometimes minor updates are done without announcing them. Check the store when it comes back up.

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by mtgx » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:16 PM UTC

sabertoothed wrote: post #27

I found that keynote terribly disappointing and uninspired. I had really hoped for Apple that they show something new and innovative - instead of two smaller versions of existing products. EDIT: I did not mean that in an Apple-bashing way. But I wonder what Elon Musk would come up with if he had time and - let's say - 100 billion USD at his disposal.

I was hoping they'd at least announce some new security improvements (I mean besides patches). But perhaps it's too soon for that, and we may see them in iOS 10 (X?).

I'd like to see client-side encrypted iCloud sync and either adopt Signal's encryption protocol for iMessage or at least disable iMessage sync by default and give the user control over iMessage sync alone (as opposed to being an all-or-nothing solution as it is now).

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by mtgx » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:18 PM UTC

tux1968 wrote: post #25

bthrn wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open this network stream with VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1603kjbnadc...

Thank you. Why wouldn't they just put this on their website? Crazy that they make it so uninviting for so many people.

As with anything Apple, it's like that by design.

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by benjaminl » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:19 PM UTC

t_fatus wrote: post #17

Your browser doesn’t support live streaming of the event. Seriously Apple ... 'Apple refuses to stream on your browser' would be a better message

Apple uses a live streaming variant of HLS to stream their events. Since HLS is basically an Apple proprietary protocol it isn't well supported on other platforms.

Apple in one of their previous press events enabled support for the Microsoft Edge browser.

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by amiadsoto » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:22 PM UTC

Most boring apple keynote ever. Seriously.

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by doodpants » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:25 PM UTC

bthrn wrote: post #3

berberous wrote: post #2

Anybody have a tip on how to watch on Windows 7?

Open this network stream with VLC: http://p.events-delivery.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1603kjbnadc...

Thank you for this. I would otherwise have had to watch the event on my iPhone. Just curious, how did you find this?

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by kbenson » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:26 PM UTC

teraflop wrote: post #15

realityking wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They use HTTP Live Streaming ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming ) which is Apple's own protocol and hasn't been adopted by anyone but Microsoft. To be fair, when they first implemented it MPEG DASH was a long way off.

HLS is used in plenty of places outside Apple and Microsoft. For example, Twitch.tv uses it in their HTML5 player which works in all modern browsers. If you paste the playlist URL from another subthread into an open-source HTML5 player [1], it works perfectly. There's literally no reason that Apple couldn't embed this on their home page except stubbornness. [1]: http://dailymotion.github.io/hls.js/demo/

I believe it's also in fairly heavy use by Roku, as a supported technology that third party channels can use to provide a better streaming experience.

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by jayflux » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:27 PM UTC

nabaraz wrote: post #5

netinstructions wrote: post #4

I'm curious why my modern browser "doesn’t support live streaming of the event" according to Apple. It was the same issue last year. I need an Apple product (or a Windows 10 PC with Microsoft Edge) to watch a livestream on the internet. Odd for 2016. Is this really a technical barrier or a marketing/strategic barrier?

Interesting that Edge is allowed to stream. PS: Wiki [1] says Apples's HTTP live streaming is supported on Chrome 30 and onwards. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming

Isn't it more to do with safari doesn't run on Windows? So Apple need to officially support a Windows browser as to not exclude all those windows users

Re: Apple March 2016 Keynote – 10am PDT

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Post by riscy » Mon, Mar 21, 2016, 6:29 PM UTC

I cringed every time they kept trying to emphasize the night hue mode as if it is innovative... they explicitly removed two apps from the store that added the feature in the past just to try and profit from an old idea.