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Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

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Easier than that, simply X-Ray the bikes at the finish line. Don't even announce which races will do it, that way partial enforcement can work.

I'm sure all these health conscious road bikers will love being blasted with X-rays. Millimeter waves sound so much more friendly.

They'll dismount and give the bike to the x-ray tech, of course. Besides they got a bigger dose in the scanner at the airport.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#32
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Easier than that, simply X-Ray the bikes at the finish line. Don't even announce which races will do it, that way partial enforcement can work.

I'm sure all these health conscious road bikers will love being blasted with X-rays. Millimeter waves sound so much more friendly.

you can let them get off the bike before x-raying them...

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#33

Don't bicycle races have inspections? Safety or otherwise? I'm more familiar with motorcycle and car races where there are long lists of "class", safety, and weight requirements. Would be trivial to detect either by weight or looking down seat tube.

Messing with the height of someone's seat by pulling it out before a race would ... not be seen very well. A lot of people can tell when it's off by a few millimeters.

But yeah, they are doing inspections these days.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#34
I'd never would have thought to use a worm ring geared motor hidden in the frame. Reminds me of how nitrous bottles are hidden inside roll cages and cooling systems in racing cars. Cheating is an art of itself.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#35
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There are two videos on Youtube that have been regarded by bike fans as suspicous. I will let HN readers make their own minds up! https://youtu.be/8Nd13ARuvVE?t=3m35s and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ideiS-6gBAc I would love to hear smart people's thoughts!

Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. The banned woman was caught having one, on a spare bike in the pit. She claims it's owned by a friend (who corroborated) and that her mechanics mistakenly put it in the pit, etc.. it's a pretty shaky story, but the fact remains they have never actually caught someone using one during a race. There's a large number of people who think it just wouldn'…

> Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one.

Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships.

The UCI are pushing for a lifetime ban and a very hefty fine for Van den Driessche, so there is a significant disincentive: http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/uci-seeking-lifetime-ban-and-...

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#36

There are two videos on Youtube that have been regarded by bike fans as suspicous. I will let HN readers make their own minds up! https://youtu.be/8Nd13ARuvVE?t=3m35s and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ideiS-6gBAc I would love to hear smart people's thoughts!

That second one is either a motor or a flywheel. No way a normal road racing wheelset could spin a fallen bike like that. Just my gut talking, though. I could be wrong...

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#37
post #35
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. The banned woman was caught having one, on a spare bike in the pit. She claims it's owned by a friend (who corroborated) and that her mechanics mistakenly put it in the pit, etc.. it's a pretty shaky story, but the fact remains they have never actually caught someone using one during a race. There's a large number of people who think it just wouldn'…

> Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships. The UCI are pushing for a lifetime ban and a very hefty fine for Van den Driessche, so there is a significant disincentive: http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/uci-seeking-lifetime-ban-and-...

> Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships.

He discussed that: she was not caught using one.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#38
post #35
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. The banned woman was caught having one, on a spare bike in the pit. She claims it's owned by a friend (who corroborated) and that her mechanics mistakenly put it in the pit, etc.. it's a pretty shaky story, but the fact remains they have never actually caught someone using one during a race. There's a large number of people who think it just wouldn'…

> Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships. The UCI are pushing for a lifetime ban and a very hefty fine for Van den Driessche, so there is a significant disincentive: http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/uci-seeking-lifetime-ban-and-...

That's the same exact case GP is talking about. Femke's spare bike was found to have the motor, not the one she was riding during the race.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

#39
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. The banned woman was caught having one, on a spare bike in the pit. She claims it's owned by a friend (who corroborated) and that her mechanics mistakenly put it in the pit, etc.. it's a pretty shaky story, but the fact remains they have never actually caught someone using one during a race. There's a large number of people who think it just wouldn'…

On a long climb, timed right as part of an attack, it would definitely, definitely be a help. The difference between the top riders is so slim that it would without question make a difference, in my mind. I think the Cancellara video looks odd, but he is super-human... The Hesjedal video is just super weird. He could have knocked the motor on during the fall. He also gets up in a really suspicious manner IMO...

> The difference between the top riders is so slim that it would without question

Exactly.

In the first clip you posted, at the end in the tour of flanders when Cancellara attacks before the finish, neither his cadence nor his body position change as he accelerates. Further, the rider behind him who is undoubtedly an incredible athlete has to stand up just to keep his current pace.

At the very least it's not hard to see why this looks suspicious.

Re: Hidden motors for road bikes

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post #37
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Here's the thing. No one to date has actually been caught using one. Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships. The UCI are pushing for a lifetime ban and a very hefty fine for Van den Driessche, so there is a significant disincentive: http://cyclingtips.com/2016/03/uci-seeking-lifetime-ban-and-...

> Actually 6 weeks ago Femke Van den Driessche was caught with a motor in the Cyclocross World Championships. He discussed that: she was not caught using one.

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