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Political Correctness Devours yet Another College, Fighting Over Mini-Sombreros

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My question is: what the fuck is "social probation"? And how in the world does throwing a party with silly hats get people kicked out of their dorms? This would never have happened when I was in school[1]. [1] The people getting kicked out of dorms business, not the party (unless it was really rowdy and there were injuries or property destruction or something).

You are delusional. University administration has always been filled with the worst kinds of totalitarians.

I'm pretty sure I attended parties in college that had alcohol and possibly funny hats. :) Unless my delusion is that I went to college. :P

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#32
The deep and abiding irony of "cultural appropriation" is that nothing will reinforce Anglo-American culture more than people being scared of borrowing elements of other cultures. If you're worried that Anglo-American culture is being diluted by outside influences, well these Bowdoin students are coming to your rescue.

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#33
The thing that really drives me nuts about the PC movement is that it infantilizes and stereotypes the very groups and cultures it purports to protect, robbing them of their own voices and self-agency. It latches onto a cardboard cutout of a stereotype for a culture and uses it to browbeat others into acceptance of the activist's interpretation of that culture and what may or may not be offensive to it.

Empathy is a good trait, and one that societies should encourage. But there's a significant difference between having empathy for others and using it to justify forcing your own interpretation of that empathy on others. In so many ways, the movement is just another manifestation the so-called "white man's burden." The sheer gall and hypocrisy is overwhelming.

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#34
In European colleges, it's common for students to have "USA" themed parties.

Coca-cola is served, hot dogs are made, basketball jersey are worn, red solo cups are used, and fat costumes (an XXXXL tee shirt with a few pillows stuffed underneath) are plenty. Oh yeah people bring fake guns too.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/this-is-what-american-parties...

I wonder if "PC student newspaper editor" and "overzealous administrator" will become popular costumes soon.

Re: Political Correctness Devours yet Another College, Fighting Over Mini-Sombreros

#35

I am sorry, perhaps I am being obtuse. Why do you need to party with sombreros? When you wear a sombrero, what is that supposed to mean? why is it funny or amusing?

Why does anyone need to do anything? The point is that actions are generally permitted, and there had better be a damn good reason before anyone tells me "you're not allowed to do that."

Re: Political Correctness Devours yet Another College, Fighting Over Mini-Sombreros

#36

I am sorry, perhaps I am being obtuse. Why do you need to party with sombreros? When you wear a sombrero, what is that supposed to mean? why is it funny or amusing?

It means nothing. Hell, I am Mexican and if I wear a sombrero (which, literally just means hat, any hat), it just means either its really sunny outside and I don't have a cap for some reason, its an old-fashioned town party or I just felt like wearing a hat. A sombrero is not a yamaka, it has no religious or deeply symbolic meaning beyond that of a baseball cap or a pair of overalls.

Nobody needs to have a party with sombreros, but at the same time, there is no reason to ban a party with sombreros, just because it is a party with sombreros. Thing is, we don't ban everything that is not strictly necessary for survival, we ban things only when there is a damn good reason to ban them.

I'll give this whole thing the benefit of the doubt, either way, because I really don't know if the point of the party was just to wear sombreros or if there truly was some sort of weird racist overtones to it. Like, if I throw a party back in Mexico where we all dress in baseball caps and overalls, that's probably fine. If I do the same, but additionally make it known to the guests that part of the party theme is to act like stereotypical rural Americans from the southern states (e.g. I go and call it a "hillbilly party"), then I am not so sure I shouldn't be called out on that... (where "called out" is different from "evicted").

If the party was being used as a platform for racism, then yeah, cancel the whole thing, talk to students involved. If it wasn't, if it was just about having fun and wearing a "funny" hat... well, I fail to see the issue, even if it's my country's funny hat.

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#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh so you are offended now?

No. People are downvoting you because no one would care about either of those things.

Speak for yourself. Stereotypes of working class people are awful.

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I'm curious to know what other HN readers think about this topic. I was born and raised on the left side of the spectrum, and continue to be so. I can empathize with my fellow millenial's struggle to push for a true egalitarian and respectful culture in the name of liberalism. I'm torn though. I see some of these actions moving the left to eventually begin embracing seemingly-fascist policies and aesthetics. What cou…

When you live in a world where Donald Trump is "blatant" racism we've gone a little too far.

edit: To expand, there is nothing "blatant" about his racism and from what he says you can't even infer if he is racist or not. What he is clearly doing though is using dog whistle politics to bring in the racist vote and that in itself is a good reason not to vote for him.

Re: Political Correctness Devours yet Another College, Fighting Over Mini-Sombreros

#39

There's an update to this story. Bowdoin update: On Facebook, school flaunted photos of alumni, students in school-provided sombreros https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2016/03/04/bo...

An interesting difference between these is that last year's school administration sponsored sombrero event was organized by american faculty members and was considered fine by the same faculty; whereas the "offensive" sombrero event was organized by an actual latin american student and was considered by faculty members to be an offensive stereotyping event worthy of sanctions.

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