Play nice - How the internet is trying to design out toxic behaviour • Hacker News Board

Re: Play nice - How the internet is trying to design out toxic behaviour

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Post by michaelmrose » Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 12:26 AM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #15

FilterSweep wrote: post #3

I had considered a much longer criticism of this article, but I soon realized that there was no sense in complaining about a service which is no longer " ours ." The internet of today (Internet 2.x), is little more than an advertising space , a vehicle through which users mistakenly approach as an encyclopedia housing the world's information, while in actuality, the user is product. So I'll just touch on one point in…

This is about removing death threats and abuse, not humour. Reddit is absolutely not a sanitised part of the internet, and I see far more people complaining there about political correctness than actually restraining what they say. I see dry humour as more of a product of geekiness and a text-only medium, causing non-literalist humour to get a bad reception. Randi Harper's essay https://medium.com/art-marketing/putti…

Instead of trying to put out the "twitter trashfire" How about avoiding using such a crummy social network?

Re: Play nice - How the internet is trying to design out toxic behaviour

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Post by mseidl » Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 6:00 AM UTC

Animats wrote: post #16

First problem: anonymity + some assholes = mess (the Penny Arcade version:[1]) Facebook dealt with this by requiring "real names". Except from some whining from drag queens, this has worked well. Wikipedia has an ongoing struggle with this, but because everything on Wikipedia can be undone, users have reputations, and the asshole fraction isn't that large, Wikipedia continues to work. Any system where fake identities…

Wasn't there something in the last few years in S. Korea where in order to curb online harassment/stupid people so they made everybody use their real name and it only dropped by like 0.02 percent. It was really negligible.

Re: Play nice - How the internet is trying to design out toxic behaviour

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Post by jerf » Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 3:19 PM UTC

FilterSweep wrote: post #9

jerf wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Has Mrgan ever been to Reddit, the site so bold as to deem itself..." Mrgan's claim was not about Reddit. It was about a distinct moderation structure.

A valid point, but I'd argue Reddit was a better example of a distinct moderation structure than the example she actually did provide, Facebook. Facebook AFAIK requires you to report posts that you disagree with, while Reddit's moderation structure lies in it's own userbase. Save for technical subfora, dissident opinions are quickly downvoted into oblivion.

No, you and apparently a lot of other people missed the point. There was nothing about the statement you quoted that was about the internet at large. It was specifically about the model of moderation they tried out. That exact one. Not anything else.

But you don't seem to have been alone in missing that, so arguably the writing should have been more clear. (No sarcasm. I am seriously saying the writing must be deficient.)

Re: Play nice - How the internet is trying to design out toxic behaviour

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Post by dominotw » Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 5:57 PM UTC

dang wrote: post #30

dominotw wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do know why 'AirBnb' was removed from the title ? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10763732

I think we thought that bit was linkbait. We routinely take out baity "you" phrases from titles. The story itself stayed on the front page, as you pointed out at the time. There have been many negative Airbnb stories on the front page of HN—indeed there was one today. FWIW, "don't censor stories for being negative about a YC startup" is literally the #1 rule of HN moderation: it's the first thing PG said to me when s…

ah ok. Thank you for your explanation dang. I am quite sure how I got that idea into my head. I stand corrected. thanks.