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Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by jsprogrammer » Fri, Feb 19, 2016, 9:55 PM UTC

kough wrote: post #20

It's stories like this that make me wish as hard as I do for better pre-birth screening for mental disorders, including autism, and continued support of abortion. It's an unbearable burden - to the parents, society, but most of all to the children themselves, who are utterly blameless and must suffer the rest of their lives as a result. I try to debate rationally and understand that other people have their own opinio…

According to other sources, the parents of these children have shaken, beaten, and overdosed at least Jani. The father also apparently admitted to molesting Jani as a baby as well.

Things might have turned out much differently for these children had they been treated differently while growing up.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by blurbleblurble » Sat, Feb 20, 2016, 4:20 AM UTC

It's uncanny to me that Jani hallucinates cats and rats... Toxoplasa Gondii evolved in cats and rats, and is linked to early-onset schizophrenia (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16920078). Makes me wonder...

T. Gondii is known to cause infected rats to become attracted to the smell of cat urine.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by guardTheGuards » Sat, Feb 20, 2016, 5:11 AM UTC

beparanoid wrote: post #26

abortoTheClown wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if we aborted every deviation from the norm, we'd probably slip into monoculture as a species, and risk falling prey to a mass extinction event, beyond our understanding. Somehow, the cold statistics of DNA mutation would leave us behind, and we'd become creatures with no means of adapting, until one vast catastrophe forces the issue. What might feel practical in the moment, for one, might be terrible for the col…

That's not how genetics works in a sexually reproducing species. Most selection is via modifying allele frequencies.

The underlying point being there might not be much to learn from, if every problematic situation is swept under the carpet, so we can pretend it's not there.

Re: Edge of the Abyss (2012)

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Post by pmarsh » Mon, Feb 22, 2016, 7:50 PM UTC

Ygg2 wrote: post #12

pmarsh wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it amazing at the untold strength in parents like these. Just ordinary folks who somehow find a way to keep on trying and pushing and doing their best when faced with unimaginable challenges. They fall and get up and keep going. Makes so many other problems many of us have to face really seem more like "problems".

Sadly, story doesn't end here. Now the brother is autistic, possibly schizophrenic and the parents are divorced.

Ugh you're right. It seems they romanticized it in their own heads as well. And in the end they're just humans.

The dad wrote a post about it all : http://janifoundation.org/blog/

Wish them all the best either way, it cannot be an easy journey.