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Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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Is that the annoying "While you were away" feature that I have been closing several times a day in the past weeks? I would like to disable it forever but there is no such option.

I hate "While you were away" with a passion, especially the part where (on mobile) after dismissing it, it asks you "Did you like this?", yet it can't take a hint after the 20th "No".

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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post #18
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This will surely end up like Facebook's feed, full of sponsored content. I wonder if Twitter would market this to individual users instead of just companies. What to make sure all your friends see your Tweet? Then spend 1 Twitter Stamp. You can buy 50 Twitter Stampfor $5. You can market it as an equivalent to a real stamp. You pay to ensure that your mail gets delivered, right? Well now you can also pay for your Twee…

> I wonder if Twitter would market this to individual users instead of just companies. They won't, they don't want user's pennies. It's hyper growth or bust.

At 300 million active users (exact numbers debated), if even 1% paid $10 a month for promoted Tweets, that's 30 million a month. That's not pennies. King Games and Supercell (Clash of Clans), have shown that microtransactions are a profitable enterprise when you abuse human reward systems. What better reward to abuse than attention?

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#33
post #19

People should check out GNU Social. Lots of people have migrated over to it (quitter.se being the biggest instance) with the whole #RIPTwitter controversy. It's entirely open source, has a twitter-like frontend you can install, and is federated across instances so even if one node starts with changes you don't like you can switch to another one and still talk to the entire network. quitter.se is moderated against hat…

The banner at the top say's "shitposter's and conservatives" might want to check out other services.

Nice start.

The entire TOS is a marvel of blackwhite-style thinking.

Because "users who harass others" and "racism, sexism, ableism, homo- and transphobia" are "in practice limitations of free speech," we get the following, quite remarkable policy:

"Moderators can exclude users from appearing in the public timeline it at any moment, without warning, permanently or temporarily. Consider it a privilege to be published in the public timeline, not a right."

Wow! Such free speech!

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#34

> We've already seen that people who use this new feature tend to Retweet and Tweet more, creating more live commentary and conversations I really don't like this trend. The same thing happened with facebook with notifications. They looked at the data and figured that when people have notifications they tend to open the app more. Then started to send tens of unwanted notifications every day. (Which comes from eg. gro…

> Result: hard blocking notifications from the mobile OS level.

For me the result was uninstalling Facebook. The app was showing daily notifications for people it thinks I could follow, with no options to disable the feature.

This was fixed at some point, so I guess the user feedback got through.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#35
Am I the only one not seeing it in Settings on desktop?

> Under Content, look for Timeline and toggle the box next to Show me the best Tweets first to change the setting.

There are 4 subsections under Content for me: Country, Tweet media, Video Tweets, and Your Twitter archive.

Edit: (U.S.)

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#36
As the resident Twitter fanboy, I'd like to point out something most people here (and elsewhere) who support the change seem to be missing out.

We (Twitter users) are not as much worried about our stream being polluted, as much as OUR tweets not being seen. Currently, as long as people are online, there's a certain guarantee that they will see it. You don't need to reach out for popularity, because they'll see it anyway. Once it becomes an algorithmically-defined popularity contest, it gets very similar to Facebook, something that most of die-hard twitter fans don't want this to be.

Yes, we think the 'algorithmic' feed is going to suck in terms of our streams, but also that our tweets will get lost in all the celebrity noise. Twitter reallllyyy doesn't seem to get that aspect of the complaints. This is more of a celeb-pandering move than to improve user experience.

So by giving my followers the option only see popularly selected tweets, you're already shutting them off me. Yeah, they may not always like my tweets, but they would like to see them once in a while (as I will want them to).

To summarize: We (existing twitter users) had a contract, an expectation-- that our timelines were going to be chronological, and we would see everything. Twitter is trying to change that, and changing our expectations WHILE we are using it. My guess is, it thinks the 'network effect' makes it too big to fail, and doing this will bring in more of the fb-crowd. By doing this, it is alienating us those who were here for precisely 'not-like-fb' features.

I am mad. Very mad. If this is made the default, this is going to be another 'google-killed-reader' rage.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#37
post #27

I know I'm going against the grain here but I think a feature like this actually makes a lot of sense. Maybe I am not as heavy a Twitter user as other people here, but I hate how easily I can miss important tweets if I just don't check my feed for a few hours. Since I am also on a different time zone than many people I follow, I end up having to catch up on hours of tweets every morning by scrolling down the page for…

Yeah, this seems like it might be useful for people who follow loads of accounts. I follow about 40, and I want to read literally everything all of them say. So long as it doesn't fuck up that use-case (e.g. by remaining optional), I'm fine with it.

I agree. It seems to me that Twitter is the wrong tool to use if you're trying to communicate important things that must not be missed, or if you're trying to read the same.

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

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post #33
post #19

People should check out GNU Social. Lots of people have migrated over to it (quitter.se being the biggest instance) with the whole #RIPTwitter controversy. It's entirely open source, has a twitter-like frontend you can install, and is federated across instances so even if one node starts with changes you don't like you can switch to another one and still talk to the entire network. quitter.se is moderated against hat…

The banner at the top say's "shitposter's and conservatives" might want to check out other services. Nice start. The entire TOS is a marvel of blackwhite-style thinking. Because "users who harass others" and "racism, sexism, ableism, homo- and transphobia" are "in practice limitations of free speech," we get the following, quite remarkable policy: "Moderators can exclude users from appearing in the public timeline it…

Please, explain how it's a limit of "free speech" to not be published. I had no idea the constitutional abuses The New York Times was subjecting me to by not running my Farscape episode recaps!

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#39

Am I the only one not seeing it in Settings on desktop? > Under Content, look for Timeline and toggle the box next to Show me the best Tweets first to change the setting. There are 4 subsections under Content for me: Country, Tweet media, Video Tweets, and Your Twitter archive. Edit: (U.S.)

Not the only one, I wonder if it is US only (I'm UK)

Re: Twitter's new timeline feature

#40
post #4

Is that the annoying "While you were away" feature that I have been closing several times a day in the past weeks? I would like to disable it forever but there is no such option.

I hate "While you were away" with a passion, especially the part where (on mobile) after dismissing it, it asks you "Did you like this?", yet it can't take a hint after the 20th "No".

I've come to suspect that it's asking me whether I liked the tweets, not the feature.

So every time I tell it "I hate this", it thinks I actually dislike the people and tweets, which is actually the opposite.

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