My bank introduced a flash-based internet banking half a year ago. Really. (only the login requires flash)
Flash-Free Video in 2016
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Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#32Has anyone here that is excited about HTML5 video (and Flash being dead) ever written an enterprise video player? It's a total nightmare in HTML5. You have little control over playback and insight into video events. Meeting business requirements (that Flash fulfilled) with HTML5 video ranges from hard to not possible.
Can you elaborate on this? At work we have a HTML video player that works with files, YouTube, and Vimeo all with the same skin, and we're easily able to do things like save state across sessions. I will say that the transcoding aspect can be complicated. What limitations have you hit?
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
All closed technology, on some level, exists to perpetuate coercion. This is the thesis of the free software movement.
> All closed technology, on some level, may be used to perpetuate coercion. Maybe this way? There are surely many examples of closed technology that isn't phoning home. The problem is that you don't get many garanties.
I don't think coercion is necessarily limited to phoning home.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#34So, basically Flash lives on because advertisers are still looking for a way to track us without our permission. Gee thanks.
You can still track users just fine without Flash - the VPAID spec calls for allowing cross-domain "Friendly" scripting access, which is horrible for users.[1]
The only problem with Javascript adoption was the availability of Javascript based ads and support for this VPAID style tracking.
[1] http://www.iab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/VPAID_2_0_Fina... - VPAID 2.0 spec, section 8.1.3: "The VPAID ad unit is rendered within a friendly IFRAME (FIF) and can access the DOM of the page in which the player is rendered."
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
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#36What I found most heartening about the article was that it spent several paragraphs describing why they initially had to use Flash, and how they managed to get rid of it, but not a single sentence saying _why_ they decided to get rid of Flash. We've come a long way! (Also, thanks Steve Jobs!!!)
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#37Fantastic news and congrats to the NY Times team. Does anyone know, who at this point still continues to use Flash?
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Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#38What I found most heartening about the article was that it spent several paragraphs describing why they initially had to use Flash, and how they managed to get rid of it, but not a single sentence saying _why_ they decided to get rid of Flash. We've come a long way! (Also, thanks Steve Jobs!!!)
> Throughout the second half of 2015, Chrome, Firefox and Safari also began blocking the Flash plugin from automatically loading content unless users gave their permission. In order to continue providing a quality video experience for our viewers, switching exclusively to HTML5 video became necessary.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#39Sometimes I think Steve Jobs' greatest contribution may have been killing flash. Today is a glorious day.
This really wasn't a Steve Jobs contribution in the least, it was Adobe.
Flash on mobile was terrible, Steve Jobs may have been the messenger for that but he wasn't the decision maker.
Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. Frustrates the HELL out of me even more because all their videos are available in web-friendly MP4 for the mobile services and you can get to them if you spoof the user agent. I wish they would just let me toggle a "beta" feature or something.
I'm 99% sure they introduced a non-flash service in beta recently. Edit: Yeah, you can opt-in with a button on the right column here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/html5
Only for iPlayer, not for example on BBC News video clips, and not even 100% of iPlayer content yet. Still progress I suppose.