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Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by strictnein »

jacquesm wrote: post #21
hapless wrote: post #16

It sounds like their plan is to block all ads, then sell the new ad inventory created by all the blank space on pages. Why on earth would users want this browser?

Well, the logical extension of that is that you actually get paid to browse, that might be a gamechanger. Keep in mind that the supply side right now ends at the owner of the web property that starts the ball rolling when in fact it actually starts with the person sitting behind the computer looking at the page. So this is a giant cut-out-the-middle-men opportunity and Eich is fairly uniquely positioned to take advan…

We tried the "paid to browse" thing 15-20 years ago. Didn't go so well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_to_surf

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by rockdoe »

hapless wrote: post #16

It sounds like their plan is to block all ads, then sell the new ad inventory created by all the blank space on pages. Why on earth would users want this browser?

Because the other browsers don't include ad-blockers by default. You can get them as addons, but they're not included by default.

I'm sure for many people this makes a difference. Is that enough to switch? Ehhh...

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by rmc »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #27

Its by the same guy who donated to causes doing their best to make sure two people in love can't get married due to their gender. Sociopathy has many forms and its obvious to me that Eich is just an untrustworthy guy with a lot of bad ideas. Low-rent projects like these is just further evidence that you need a founder/leader you can trust. Its clear he's exhausted his social capital and at age 54 is far away from his…

The percentage of sociopathy does not match the percentage of homophobes opposed to marriage equality, a number which has changed a lot in living memory.

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by strictnein »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #27

Its by the same guy who donated to causes doing their best to make sure two people in love can't get married due to their gender. Sociopathy has many forms and its obvious to me that Eich is just an untrustworthy guy with a lot of bad ideas. Low-rent projects like these is just further evidence that you need a founder/leader you can trust. Its clear he's exhausted his social capital and at age 54 is far away from his…

Bad ideas like Javascript and Mozilla.

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by frou_dh »

Touche wrote: post #13

The scrolling on this website is janky as hell. Looks like they are using some "Smooth scrolling" plugin that makes scrolling not smooth at all. Not sure why native browser scrolling was insufficient for them, I'm scrolling here in HN all the time and it's perfectly smooth.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9238739

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by kentt »

Touche wrote: post #13

The scrolling on this website is janky as hell. Looks like they are using some "Smooth scrolling" plugin that makes scrolling not smooth at all. Not sure why native browser scrolling was insufficient for them, I'm scrolling here in HN all the time and it's perfectly smooth.

I immediately close any site that hijacks my scrolling. Thanks for the warning, will not visit that site.

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by bobajeff »

rockdoe wrote: post #3

https://github.com/brave/browser-ios "Firefox for iOS" They forgot to remove the branding from their "new" browser.

"Link Bubble Browser" Is the base for the Android version.

It sounds like the whole idea is to add bitcoin micropayments to the web and stop (via blockers) sites from using heavy intrusive ads.

Re: Brave: Brendan Eich's clean-ads browser startup

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Post by mrtron »

jacquesm wrote: post #21
hapless wrote: post #16

It sounds like their plan is to block all ads, then sell the new ad inventory created by all the blank space on pages. Why on earth would users want this browser?

Well, the logical extension of that is that you actually get paid to browse, that might be a gamechanger. Keep in mind that the supply side right now ends at the owner of the web property that starts the ball rolling when in fact it actually starts with the person sitting behind the computer looking at the page. So this is a giant cut-out-the-middle-men opportunity and Eich is fairly uniquely positioned to take advan…

Paying to browse, a terrible idea that has been tried before.

Alladvantage.com raised about 200m on that idea. The wikipedia page isn't correct, they had a pyramid based payout system. Fraudulent users would create enormous numbers of fake users under them and simulate all of their browsing.

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