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Apple is going to have a tough year

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Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

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It is obvious that eventually the sales of any product, even the iPhone would eventually plateau. This means of course, the stock value would be no longer determined by some fancy dreams of growth but the actual financials of the company. With the share price going down, the resulting hit might have already happened. But this still would mean that the most profitable company plateaus, not a bad place to be. Also the…

> It is obvious that eventually the sales of any product, even the iPhone would eventually plateau.

Eventually, probably, if by "plateau" you mean "decelerate."

> This means of course, the stock value would be no longer determined by some fancy dreams of growth but the actual financials of the company.

LOL. Apple's P/E is 11.45. Google's is 35.69. Microsoft's is 37.28. Facebook's is 105.14. Amazon's is 980.46. The S&P 500 average is 21.54.

Which of these has "fancy dreams of growth" again?

Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

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post #32
post #25

It is obvious that eventually the sales of any product, even the iPhone would eventually plateau. This means of course, the stock value would be no longer determined by some fancy dreams of growth but the actual financials of the company. With the share price going down, the resulting hit might have already happened. But this still would mean that the most profitable company plateaus, not a bad place to be. Also the…

> It is obvious that eventually the sales of any product, even the iPhone would eventually plateau. Eventually, probably, if by "plateau" you mean "decelerate." > This means of course, the stock value would be no longer determined by some fancy dreams of growth but the actual financials of the company. LOL. Apple's P/E is 11.45. Google's is 35.69. Microsoft's is 37.28. Facebook's is 105.14. Amazon's is 980.46. The S&…

Not to speak of the fact that if you take out the cash, the p/e is 8.something.

Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

#34

apple stock will hit a high of $144.42 USD per share this year. You heard it here first. EDIT add "this year"

A 40% increase over today's closing price? And a 10% increase over Apple's highest on record? There's no market reason to believe that. Even if I had insider information that Apple had a "game changing" product or device, I still think $144.42 is unlikely, and there are no rumours to suggest that.

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Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

#35
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> am I the only one who considers the markets obsession of endless growth as absurd? Likely not however we're only talking stock price here and the only thing that matters in investing in stocks in finding your way back to a return which typically happens when stock prices go up and you can sell higher or you get a dividend. Since Apple doesn't do the latter it has to do the former which means requires constantly gro…

Actually AAPL starting issuing dividends in 2012 giving in to pressure from shareholders.

Oh look at that you're right. Damn.

Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

#36

'Smart, rational people in the media, like Nilay Patel of The Verge' ahh yeah.. Ok Apple is going to be fine.. They carry very little /no debt and make the best phone in the world that magically becomes obsolete in 14 months.. I can't imagine a better business to be in and dominate.

They do have debt now, they took out loans worth tens of billions in US and a few other countries in order to avoid bringing in money oversea. I believe they're at 40-50$ billions in debt now.

Yes, they have very low interest rates on these loans and probably can pay them all off once the oversea profits come into US at a loss of 40% tax but they're technically debts.

Re: Apple is going to have a tough year

#38
Utter nonsense, pure clickbait froth. The watch is a great v1 product (read some iPhone v1 reviews and compare) and the new model should be announced soon. The new atv is FANTASTIC, and at $149 they will sell a ton of them. And the iPad Pro is getting rave reviews, though the price point means I think it'll be another generation before the new stuff makes it into the cheaper models and makes a big bump in the iPad numbers.

I'd say apple is poised for a great year, unless the world economy goes pop, which might well happen but can't be helped.

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