I don't see why we should pay website owners through Google, who will presumably take a cut of the money, when decentralized digital currency exists. I'd like to see a Bitcoin based system in the form of a browser plugin.
Pay Google to stop seeing ads
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#32Why do I get the impression that I'm paying protection money to the mob? These ads wouldn't exist in the first place if it wasn't for Google.
Correspondingly, if there were no ads there would be many fewer small websites.
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#33I don't see why we should pay website owners through Google, who will presumably take a cut of the money, when decentralized digital currency exists. I'd like to see a Bitcoin based system in the form of a browser plugin.
Do you want people to click to donate every time they show up on a page? People will never click that button.
This system is great because it's a) seamless (you just get one bill a month), b) based on usage (you visited these pages) and c) is a market (the price you pay is based on competitive rates that advertisers would otherwise be willing to pay).
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#34I have often wondered - why can't there be a subscription model where Google says: Pay us $5 a month and you will not be 'tracked'. If all I want is to not see ads, why will I not just use an ad blocker?
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#35Let's consider this for our non techy friends and family. Can we expect our mothers to pay Google a monthy fee to view less adverts on webpages on the Internet? How will their ideas about what the internet-as-utility mean to them change? Will they consider the money they pay to their ISP as already covering this? Would not paying imply that they should be happy to see advertising? How would this model apply to other…
I buy apps so I don't see ads in them all the time. This is the web equivalent of that. Why is that complicated?
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#36Five clicks to see I'm not eligible. Google, I'm disappointed.
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#37It's unfortunate that all the pricing schemes are non-deterministic. If they can't know for sure, they should just have an additional pay-as-you-go style plan with rough estimates. Maybe let people decide how much maximum they are willing to pay each month. It actually sounds like that until one hits the pricing page. It looks like as an average case, looking to spend $25 or above should get one 100% AdSense free Int…
You choose how much you're willing to pay per month. The non deterministic part is what percentage of advertising will be blocked (either due to not being on Google's ad network or because you ran out of spend in your monthly payment).
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#38I think they're on the right track with a wide pay-for-content subscription, but I think they're missing that what people don't like is being tracked, not ads themselves. Ads can be ignored easily enough, especially with a blocker. Why pay for a service that you can get with an ad blocker? What's needed is a Spotify premium-style model, where a monthly subscription is paid by the user, which is distributed to the con…
> What's needed is a Spotify premium-style model, where a monthly subscription is paid by the user, which is distributed to the content producers.
Remember flattr? IIRC it failed because a lack of adoption and because micropayments are expensive (fuck banks for this one).
Re: Pay Google to stop seeing ads
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true. But ads are more targeted not to make it less annoying for you, but because people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with. But I do think legislation to make you be tracked less would be awesome, but it'd be fighting money.
> people who sell stuff think they'll get a higher conversion rate the more targeted they get.... and that's hard to argue with. Is it really? For me, targeted ads come up for either a) products I have already purchased or b) products I've looked at and then decided not to buy. I got my wife an espresso grinder for Christmas, ordered on Dec. 10, but AdSense is still showing me ads for grinders. There is exactly 0.00%…
Campaign A: Show 10,000 random people ads for espresso grinders.
Campaign B: Show 10,000 people who recently looked at espresso grinders some ads for them.
95% of the first group didn't know espresso grinders were a thing people bought. The remainder probably aren't actively shopping for one.
In the second group, some portion of the audience has already bought an espresso grinder, or decided they don't want one right now after all. But it's also guaranteed to include thousands of people actively shopping for one right now.
Which campaign do you think is going to result in more espresso grinders sold? The one that doesn't include you, or the one that does?
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
You would have to rely on ad websites to respect laws and regulations and for legislations to be consistent in every country. Ain't going to happen. I'd rather keep blocking ads.
The ad network will only have to comply with that for websites that operate out of said country, a US website doesn't have to comply with EU cookie policy for example unless it's operated by a company from within the EU.
Yes right now the website will serve a script from a third party ad network, which itself serves a script from a fourth party ad network, etc, etc. When you visit a US website you would be lucky that all the companies that help themselves on your browser are all US based.