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The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

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Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Randi wanted a person crucified…" I didn't see that in the article, could you point us to that information?

I agree with you, but I think they were talking about past events maybe? Their is a history between FreeBSDGirl and the roosh guy. (By history, I mean going back and forth online, not a personal history).

Citation needed. I've never talked to him (or, for that matter, the person that said they know all the parties involved).

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#32
post #10

:(... As someone who didn't really follow the whole controversy the past years, this was an eye-opener for me. Did it really get that bad? Stop tolerating the intolerant! Also, I don't understand the point of GamerGate. As an outsider, all I see is two groups making themselves look really bad and everyone else loosing. You don't convince others by threatening and harassing them, something the extremes at both sides s…

I don't follow you on that last bit, about noticing how she didn't mention the username. I feel like you mean to imply something, but maybe I'm not following?

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#34
post #3

She's talking about some guy and his "campaign to legalize rape". I thought she was exaggerating or maybe misunderstanding something. Sure, this guy is probably an asshole, but legalizing rape, come on! I followed the link and... it is kind of almost entertaining. He means it. Literally. You can't stop reading that trainwreck of an argument, because it gets worse and worse. And then you've lost all hope in mankind. I…

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Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

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post #34
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She's talking about some guy and his "campaign to legalize rape". I thought she was exaggerating or maybe misunderstanding something. Sure, this guy is probably an asshole, but legalizing rape, come on! I followed the link and... it is kind of almost entertaining. He means it. Literally. You can't stop reading that trainwreck of an argument, because it gets worse and worse. And then you've lost all hope in mankind. I…

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> Do something positive like encourage that girl to make her contribution to FreeBSD regardless of what words are slung around.

This is the attitude I'm talking about in my other comments.

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#36
post #10

:(... As someone who didn't really follow the whole controversy the past years, this was an eye-opener for me. Did it really get that bad? Stop tolerating the intolerant! Also, I don't understand the point of GamerGate. As an outsider, all I see is two groups making themselves look really bad and everyone else loosing. You don't convince others by threatening and harassing them, something the extremes at both sides s…

It's a shit storm, which might have had meaning at some point but it's now mostly a way to grab attention by a group of people, mostly looking for ways to make money out of it.

How is this about making money?

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this have to do with GamerGate? This is a feminist talking about an MRA, neither of those things are GamerGate... I feel like you have conflated the issues a bit maybe?

I went back and counted, there are 6 mentions of GamerGate (not including the tag) and all of them are anecdotal references by FreeBSDGirl. In fact, the primary article in question (the guy that wants to legalize rape) doesn't mention GamerGate at all, or even remotely allude to it. P.S. Thanks for the downvote rather than a reply. It really shows your willingness to talk about issues and not just jump to conclusions…

The guy that wants to legalize rape and the person the article is mainly about are not the same person.

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#38
post #6

I know most of the people involved in this and it's just a shit sandwich. Randi wanted a person crucified, that's not how companies and foundations function, and thankfully so. I hope she finds success in new endeavors and am sad she had to leave under gross circumstance.

"Randi wanted a person crucified…" I didn't see that in the article, could you point us to that information?

"Crucified" is an obvious exaggeration, but the article does contain "Last, I wanted this developer removed from the project and the IRC channel."

I don't know anything about what happened here more than what's public, but it's totally imaginable to me that if you make that an ultimatum, and the project leadership hasn't given itself a reasonable way to do that, it's difficult for them to respond usefully.

Maybe the lesson here is that good projects should give their leadership the explicit ability and the political authority to do that, including for forums like IRC. There are many examples of projects / communities that are wonderful places until things go wrong. (This is, essentially, the argument for having a written code of conduct even though nobody would be violating it.)

Re: The Developer Formerly Known as FreeBSDGirl

#39
post #6

I know most of the people involved in this and it's just a shit sandwich. Randi wanted a person crucified, that's not how companies and foundations function, and thankfully so. I hope she finds success in new endeavors and am sad she had to leave under gross circumstance.

A woman wanted recourse for feeling unsafe because of the horribleness someone was spewing. Any real recourse. I outline this in my other comments. I was there for the entire ordeal. They tolerated every infraction with no consequence.
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